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Re: DTMF

Steve N4IRS
 

Jeff,
One of the things that may cause a problem is how DTMF decode works. The question is, will a USRP connected node decode DTMF like a SimpleUSB or DSP channel driver.

On 6/8/2018 10:37 AM, Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH wrote:

DING DING DING….we have a winner. That is exactly where I was thinking my way towards….Setting up a bridge to a specific DMR ID and then using it as a way to control my node from.

 

Thanks Will and Steve. This all makes sense to me. I will play and see what results I have 😊

 

Jeff

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> On Behalf Of WillieB
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:34
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] DTMF

 

If you bridge to a DMR ID instead of a TG, then it shouldn’t matter at all whether you leave telemetry on or off. The only issue with it I’ve ran into, is if you are on a node with a lot of connecting/disconnecting then while it’s announcing you can’t transmit. You have to wait until it’s finished. It gets irritating fast lol…

 

Now what I would be interested in, is if we can get it to pass DTMF and leave telemetry on but only for our node. In other words I don’t want to hear when other nodes have disconnecting/connecting nodes.

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve N4IRS
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:26 AM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] DTMF

 

Well, there is one report. Turning off telemetry is recommenced but not mandatory. If the TG the bridge is on does not care or wants to here the messages, go ahead and turn telemetry on. I guess I need to be more clear in the how-to.

Thanks, Steve

On 6/8/2018 10:21 AM, WillieB wrote:

Doesn’t work for me, but I’ll say that since it’s recommended to turn off all telemetry anyway, it’s not the best solution even if it did work.

 

I installed allmon2, and I also setup Zoiper with an iax connection. I most always use allmon2 since I can visually see when it connects and when it doesn’t.

 

-Will

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:18 AM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: [DVSwitch] DTMF

 

Hi Steve Et al,

      Will the bridges pass DTMF? Let’s say I setup an ASL<--> DMR Bridge and I want to control the ASL node. Will the bridge pass the DTMF to do that?

 

       Just thinking my way through a possible project, but I was wondering if this worked. It’s not a deal breaker, just would mean I need to think of something else 😊

 

  Jeff

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

Email: kc8qch@...

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

Email: hamcoarpsc@...

 

Allstar Node 47374 Administrator

The Guild/IRN

http://theguildglobal.org

 

 



Re: Intermittent No Audio

Steve N4IRS
 

I don't think it makes a difference. Though, some radios don't like hearing traffic from their own ID. The fly in the ointment is that the audio is heard on hoseline all the time and only sometime on the radio.

On 6/8/2018 10:37 AM, WillieB wrote:

I wonder if the intermittent audio issue is only happening while bridging to a DMR ID, or does anyone else have this issue bridging to a DMR talk group as well?

 

-Will

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of WillieB
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:31 PM
To: main@dvswitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Intermittent No Audio

 

Ok, I have some more info. I was just able to listen to a long net so I did a little more troubleshooting.

 

To be clear I'm using a DMR HT connected to the bridge, connected to AllStar node 45221.

 

When the issue is happening, one of 2 things happen. My hotspot transmits and shows my DMR ID the entire time, and it's either completely silent on the HT or there is a low audio digital type sound coming out of the DMR HT. It may happen in the middle of someone talking, or at the beginning. It's usually at the beginning though.

 

Also, I can hear the audio fine on Brandmeister hoseline. See below for a link to a video of the issue happening (with the low digital sound). The audio you will hear in the background is hoseline (My DMR ID) playing on a computer right next to me. All that's coming out of the HT is the digital signal you hear. When it drops and starts back talking then you can hear the audio fine out of the HT. And the next time it does it, it may be completely silent or may have the low audio digital signal again.

 

Seems to me it's between Brandmeister and my hotspot, but I'm not sure what triggers it. I guess it could be related to how the audio is converted, not sure. I don't have the same issues listening to other DMR TGs.

 

Hopefully that helps.

 

 

 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:

Will,
Mike and I have been discussing where we think the issue might be. Don't reduce the minimum hang time or you will run into the BM "loop detector"
You mentioned that you are listening on a hot spot. Do you have the log for the time period that is the same as the other 2 logs you posted? When this happen, does your DMR radio still display the proper data while listening to silence?

Steve

On 06/05/2018 04:16 PM, WillieB wrote:

Any ideas on the intermittent audio issue? The only setting I see in Analog_Bridge.ini is below. Could changing this help at all?

 

minTxTimeMS = 2000                      ; Minimum time in MS for hang delay

 

 

 

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 2:14 PM, WillieB <will@...> wrote:

I’ve been busy but finally had a chance to catch it this morning. See attached logs. It happened right at the end of each log. I believe all the extended hang times at the end are related. It doesn’t seem to show much else but maybe that will give us some ideas…?

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve N4IRS
Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2018 6:59 AM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Intermittent No Audio

 

Will,
Since the data flows from ASL to MB through AB, it's good to tail both the AB and MB logs. You should see waht is happening in "real time"

Steve

On 06/01/2018 08:08 PM, WillieB wrote:

My bridge is working very well, however I do have one main problem.

 

Sometimes when one person stops talking and another person takes their turn, my hotspot transmits but there's no audio coming out. Then next time it drops and someone else starts talking I hear the audio. It may do this in about 1 out of 5 transmissions or so. It varies per person and AllStar node I'm connected to. I'm not sure if it's when they key up fast or what.

 

I can listen on the AllStar node and I hear the audio there, but not on DMR.

 

Anyone else having that problem? I was going to go check out the Analog_Bridge.ini file and see if there are any settings in there that might make sense changing but maybe someone can give me some ideas before I go poking around and changing things (after backing up the ini of course!).

 

I can also tail -f the 2 log files when it's happening and see if that gives me any clues to what might be going on.

 

-Will

KE4IAJ

 

 

 

 

 



Re: DTMF

Steve N4IRS
 

If you set the telemdefault = 2 you will not hear the connect and disconnect after a short time until it is triggered by a command.

telemdefault = 1                        ; 0 = telemetry output off
                                        ; 1 = telemetry output on (default = 1)
                                        ; 2 = timed telemetry output on command execution and for a short time thereafter.


On 6/8/2018 10:33 AM, WillieB wrote:

If you bridge to a DMR ID instead of a TG, then it shouldn’t matter at all whether you leave telemetry on or off. The only issue with it I’ve ran into, is if you are on a node with a lot of connecting/disconnecting then while it’s announcing you can’t transmit. You have to wait until it’s finished. It gets irritating fast lol…

 

Now what I would be interested in, is if we can get it to pass DTMF and leave telemetry on but only for our node. In other words I don’t want to hear when other nodes have disconnecting/connecting nodes.

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve N4IRS
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:26 AM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] DTMF

 

Well, there is one report. Turning off telemetry is recommenced but not mandatory. If the TG the bridge is on does not care or wants to here the messages, go ahead and turn telemetry on. I guess I need to be more clear in the how-to.

Thanks, Steve

On 6/8/2018 10:21 AM, WillieB wrote:

Doesn’t work for me, but I’ll say that since it’s recommended to turn off all telemetry anyway, it’s not the best solution even if it did work.

 

I installed allmon2, and I also setup Zoiper with an iax connection. I most always use allmon2 since I can visually see when it connects and when it doesn’t.

 

-Will

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:18 AM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: [DVSwitch] DTMF

 

Hi Steve Et al,

      Will the bridges pass DTMF? Let’s say I setup an ASL<--> DMR Bridge and I want to control the ASL node. Will the bridge pass the DTMF to do that?

 

       Just thinking my way through a possible project, but I was wondering if this worked. It’s not a deal breaker, just would mean I need to think of something else 😊

 

  Jeff

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

Email: kc8qch@...

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

Email: hamcoarpsc@...

 

Allstar Node 47374 Administrator

The Guild/IRN

http://theguildglobal.org

 

 



Re: DTMF

Jeff Lehman, N8ACL
 

DING DING DING….we have a winner. That is exactly where I was thinking my way towards….Setting up a bridge to a specific DMR ID and then using it as a way to control my node from.

 

Thanks Will and Steve. This all makes sense to me. I will play and see what results I have 😊

 

Jeff

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> On Behalf Of WillieB
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:34
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] DTMF

 

If you bridge to a DMR ID instead of a TG, then it shouldn’t matter at all whether you leave telemetry on or off. The only issue with it I’ve ran into, is if you are on a node with a lot of connecting/disconnecting then while it’s announcing you can’t transmit. You have to wait until it’s finished. It gets irritating fast lol…

 

Now what I would be interested in, is if we can get it to pass DTMF and leave telemetry on but only for our node. In other words I don’t want to hear when other nodes have disconnecting/connecting nodes.

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve N4IRS
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:26 AM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] DTMF

 

Well, there is one report. Turning off telemetry is recommenced but not mandatory. If the TG the bridge is on does not care or wants to here the messages, go ahead and turn telemetry on. I guess I need to be more clear in the how-to.

Thanks, Steve

On 6/8/2018 10:21 AM, WillieB wrote:

Doesn’t work for me, but I’ll say that since it’s recommended to turn off all telemetry anyway, it’s not the best solution even if it did work.

 

I installed allmon2, and I also setup Zoiper with an iax connection. I most always use allmon2 since I can visually see when it connects and when it doesn’t.

 

-Will

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:18 AM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: [DVSwitch] DTMF

 

Hi Steve Et al,

      Will the bridges pass DTMF? Let’s say I setup an ASL<--> DMR Bridge and I want to control the ASL node. Will the bridge pass the DTMF to do that?

 

       Just thinking my way through a possible project, but I was wondering if this worked. It’s not a deal breaker, just would mean I need to think of something else 😊

 

  Jeff

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

Email: kc8qch@...

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

Email: hamcoarpsc@...

 

Allstar Node 47374 Administrator

The Guild/IRN

http://theguildglobal.org

 

 


Re: Intermittent No Audio

WillieB <will@...>
 

I wonder if the intermittent audio issue is only happening while bridging to a DMR ID, or does anyone else have this issue bridging to a DMR talk group as well?

 

-Will

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of WillieB
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:31 PM
To: main@dvswitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Intermittent No Audio

 

Ok, I have some more info. I was just able to listen to a long net so I did a little more troubleshooting.

 

To be clear I'm using a DMR HT connected to the bridge, connected to AllStar node 45221.

 

When the issue is happening, one of 2 things happen. My hotspot transmits and shows my DMR ID the entire time, and it's either completely silent on the HT or there is a low audio digital type sound coming out of the DMR HT. It may happen in the middle of someone talking, or at the beginning. It's usually at the beginning though.

 

Also, I can hear the audio fine on Brandmeister hoseline. See below for a link to a video of the issue happening (with the low digital sound). The audio you will hear in the background is hoseline (My DMR ID) playing on a computer right next to me. All that's coming out of the HT is the digital signal you hear. When it drops and starts back talking then you can hear the audio fine out of the HT. And the next time it does it, it may be completely silent or may have the low audio digital signal again.

 

Seems to me it's between Brandmeister and my hotspot, but I'm not sure what triggers it. I guess it could be related to how the audio is converted, not sure. I don't have the same issues listening to other DMR TGs.

 

Hopefully that helps.

 

 

 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:

Will,
Mike and I have been discussing where we think the issue might be. Don't reduce the minimum hang time or you will run into the BM "loop detector"
You mentioned that you are listening on a hot spot. Do you have the log for the time period that is the same as the other 2 logs you posted? When this happen, does your DMR radio still display the proper data while listening to silence?

Steve

On 06/05/2018 04:16 PM, WillieB wrote:

Any ideas on the intermittent audio issue? The only setting I see in Analog_Bridge.ini is below. Could changing this help at all?

 

minTxTimeMS = 2000                      ; Minimum time in MS for hang delay

 

 

 

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 2:14 PM, WillieB <will@...> wrote:

I’ve been busy but finally had a chance to catch it this morning. See attached logs. It happened right at the end of each log. I believe all the extended hang times at the end are related. It doesn’t seem to show much else but maybe that will give us some ideas…?

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve N4IRS
Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2018 6:59 AM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Intermittent No Audio

 

Will,
Since the data flows from ASL to MB through AB, it's good to tail both the AB and MB logs. You should see waht is happening in "real time"

Steve

On 06/01/2018 08:08 PM, WillieB wrote:

My bridge is working very well, however I do have one main problem.

 

Sometimes when one person stops talking and another person takes their turn, my hotspot transmits but there's no audio coming out. Then next time it drops and someone else starts talking I hear the audio. It may do this in about 1 out of 5 transmissions or so. It varies per person and AllStar node I'm connected to. I'm not sure if it's when they key up fast or what.

 

I can listen on the AllStar node and I hear the audio there, but not on DMR.

 

Anyone else having that problem? I was going to go check out the Analog_Bridge.ini file and see if there are any settings in there that might make sense changing but maybe someone can give me some ideas before I go poking around and changing things (after backing up the ini of course!).

 

I can also tail -f the 2 log files when it's happening and see if that gives me any clues to what might be going on.

 

-Will

KE4IAJ

 

 

 

 

 


Re: DTMF

WillieB <will@...>
 

If you bridge to a DMR ID instead of a TG, then it shouldn’t matter at all whether you leave telemetry on or off. The only issue with it I’ve ran into, is if you are on a node with a lot of connecting/disconnecting then while it’s announcing you can’t transmit. You have to wait until it’s finished. It gets irritating fast lol…

 

Now what I would be interested in, is if we can get it to pass DTMF and leave telemetry on but only for our node. In other words I don’t want to hear when other nodes have disconnecting/connecting nodes.

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve N4IRS
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:26 AM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] DTMF

 

Well, there is one report. Turning off telemetry is recommenced but not mandatory. If the TG the bridge is on does not care or wants to here the messages, go ahead and turn telemetry on. I guess I need to be more clear in the how-to.

Thanks, Steve

On 6/8/2018 10:21 AM, WillieB wrote:

Doesn’t work for me, but I’ll say that since it’s recommended to turn off all telemetry anyway, it’s not the best solution even if it did work.

 

I installed allmon2, and I also setup Zoiper with an iax connection. I most always use allmon2 since I can visually see when it connects and when it doesn’t.

 

-Will

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:18 AM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: [DVSwitch] DTMF

 

Hi Steve Et al,

      Will the bridges pass DTMF? Let’s say I setup an ASL<--> DMR Bridge and I want to control the ASL node. Will the bridge pass the DTMF to do that?

 

       Just thinking my way through a possible project, but I was wondering if this worked. It’s not a deal breaker, just would mean I need to think of something else 😊

 

  Jeff

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

Email: kc8qch@...

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

Email: hamcoarpsc@...

 

Allstar Node 47374 Administrator

The Guild/IRN

http://theguildglobal.org

 

 


Re: DTMF

Steve N4IRS
 

Well, there is one report. Turning off telemetry is recommenced but not mandatory. If the TG the bridge is on does not care or wants to here the messages, go ahead and turn telemetry on. I guess I need to be more clear in the how-to.

Thanks, Steve

On 6/8/2018 10:21 AM, WillieB wrote:

Doesn’t work for me, but I’ll say that since it’s recommended to turn off all telemetry anyway, it’s not the best solution even if it did work.

 

I installed allmon2, and I also setup Zoiper with an iax connection. I most always use allmon2 since I can visually see when it connects and when it doesn’t.

 

-Will

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:18 AM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: [DVSwitch] DTMF

 

Hi Steve Et al,

      Will the bridges pass DTMF? Let’s say I setup an ASL<--> DMR Bridge and I want to control the ASL node. Will the bridge pass the DTMF to do that?

 

       Just thinking my way through a possible project, but I was wondering if this worked. It’s not a deal breaker, just would mean I need to think of something else 😊

 

  Jeff

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

Email: kc8qch@...

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

Email: hamcoarpsc@...

 

Allstar Node 47374 Administrator

The Guild/IRN

http://theguildglobal.org

 



Re: DTMF

Steve N4IRS
 

Jeff,
Good question. I see at least one "if" The bridge passes all audio from DMR to ASL. So, if the DMR radio will actually send DTMF in transmit, ASL should hear it. The other thing to consider is that the ASL node running chan_usrp would need a function stanza to execute your commands.

Steve

On 6/8/2018 10:18 AM, Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH wrote:

Hi Steve Et al,

      Will the bridges pass DTMF? Let’s say I setup an ASL<--> DMR Bridge and I want to control the ASL node. Will the bridge pass the DTMF to do that?

 

       Just thinking my way through a possible project, but I was wondering if this worked. It’s not a deal breaker, just would mean I need to think of something else 😊

 

  Jeff

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

Email: kc8qch@...

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

Email: hamcoarpsc@...

 

Allstar Node 47374 Administrator

The Guild/IRN

http://theguildglobal.org

 



Re: DTMF

WillieB <will@...>
 

Doesn’t work for me, but I’ll say that since it’s recommended to turn off all telemetry anyway, it’s not the best solution even if it did work.

 

I installed allmon2, and I also setup Zoiper with an iax connection. I most always use allmon2 since I can visually see when it connects and when it doesn’t.

 

-Will

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:18 AM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: [DVSwitch] DTMF

 

Hi Steve Et al,

      Will the bridges pass DTMF? Let’s say I setup an ASL<--> DMR Bridge and I want to control the ASL node. Will the bridge pass the DTMF to do that?

 

       Just thinking my way through a possible project, but I was wondering if this worked. It’s not a deal breaker, just would mean I need to think of something else 😊

 

  Jeff

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

Email: kc8qch@...

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

Email: hamcoarpsc@...

 

Allstar Node 47374 Administrator

The Guild/IRN

http://theguildglobal.org

 


DTMF

Jeff Lehman, N8ACL
 

Hi Steve Et al,

      Will the bridges pass DTMF? Let’s say I setup an ASL<--> DMR Bridge and I want to control the ASL node. Will the bridge pass the DTMF to do that?

 

       Just thinking my way through a possible project, but I was wondering if this worked. It’s not a deal breaker, just would mean I need to think of something else 😊

 

  Jeff

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

Email: kc8qch@...

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

Email: hamcoarpsc@...

 

Allstar Node 47374 Administrator

The Guild/IRN

http://theguildglobal.org

 


Re: Documentation feedback

Steve N4IRS
 
Edited

We have added the first howto for bridging AllStarLink to DMR. This is a work in progress so comments are welcome.

ASL to DMR Bridge how-to

73, Steve N4IRS


Re: "Blocked" Message on Brandmeister

Steve N4IRS
 

Mike,
Please post your MMDVM_Bridge.ini


On 06/07/2018 11:08 PM, Mike Swiatkowski via Groups.Io wrote:
Steve,
I don't have a "blocked message" but I do have DMR disconnecting every 2 minutes on DMR+.  The login to the MMDVM server is successful but exactly 2 minutes later it says Closing DMR Network.  Then immediately it Opens DMR Network.  This cycle repeats every 2 mins.

Mike


Re: "Blocked" Message on Brandmeister

Mike, AA9VI
 

Steve,
I don't have a "blocked message" but I do have DMR disconnecting every 2 minutes on DMR+.  The login to the MMDVM server is successful but exactly 2 minutes later it says Closing DMR Network.  Then immediately it Opens DMR Network.  This cycle repeats every 2 mins.

Mike


Re: Connect Fusion repeater to DMR

Paul Nannery KC2VRJ
 

The fusion repeater itself can not. You would need to use a mmdvm modem hooked to the 15 pin connector and some pc most use a raspberry pi. 


On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 8:11 PM Chris via Groups.Io <chood73=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
How does the Fusion repeater communicate with the “home brew Fusion protocol”?


Re: Connect Fusion repeater to DMR

Chris WB4ULK
 

How does the Fusion repeater communicate with the “home brew Fusion protocol”?


Re: Connect Fusion repeater to DMR

Paul Nannery KC2VRJ
 

I could be wrong but I think your best solution  is useing a mmdvm and the home brew fusion protacall 


On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 8:03 PM Chris via Groups.Io <chood73=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
This is just a general question about YSF.
We have a Fusion machine here in town linked to my local DMR TG using an Open Spot.

If we wanted to move it off the Open Spot to a server based solution what in the wide world of sports do we connect the Fusion repeater too?

What does the Fusion machine point to?
How does it get there? (Interface)

I understand the concept of a bridge server taking DMR to C4FM and back.
I am just missing the fundemental block of making the Fusion machine talk to some THING.

Do we need one of the “Yaesu” boxes to get the machine into a network, or is there another more elegant way of getting it there?

Chris
WB4ULK


Connect Fusion repeater to DMR

Chris WB4ULK
 

This is just a general question about YSF.
We have a Fusion machine here in town linked to my local DMR TG using an Open Spot.

If we wanted to move it off the Open Spot to a server based solution what in the wide world of sports do we connect the Fusion repeater too?

What does the Fusion machine point to?
How does it get there? (Interface)

I understand the concept of a bridge server taking DMR to C4FM and back.
I am just missing the fundemental block of making the Fusion machine talk to some THING.

Do we need one of the “Yaesu” boxes to get the machine into a network, or is there another more elegant way of getting it there?

Chris
WB4ULK


Re: Documentation feedback

Mike Zingman - N4IRR
 

I also updated the dmr to dstar section of the doc. See if it helps. 


Documentation feedback

TG9AOR
 

It does help very much. Thank you for your detailed response. I will review everything and report back. 
--
José Roberto Ruíz García Salas
TG9AOR


locked Re: First draft of overall DVSwitch documentation.

Mike Zingman - N4IRR
 

José,

So because of your document, I was able to implement the DMR to YSF interconnect.
Thank you for your feedback, we are still adding information to the outline as well as creating concrete example documents (ASL <-> DMR), etc.  Your comments help us improve the doc and every question adds to the group knowledge base.  

I did, however, had to mkdir another completely separate directory and copy the contents of MMDVM_Bridge into it, because I figured the instance already running ASL<-->Echolink<---->DMR might get affected, as the DVSwitch ini needs modification to reflect the fact that I am going to use ports 35100 and 35103 for YSF and not the 31100 and 31103 for DMR and ASL.
There are several ways to segment ini files.  Each application (AB, MB, etc) takes command line arguments to help you.  Some people prefer to have separate directories, others prefer to use one directory and name the ini files unique names.  It is up to you.  You are correct, a single instance of MB can not service two bridges with a common mode (in your case ASL <-> DMR and YSFn <-> DMR).  For this to work, you need two instances of MB and two DVSwitch.ini files.  If you wanted to have them in the same directory, you would need to use the environment variable DVSWITCH to point each instance at its ini file.  If you created ini files with names to represent your intended activity, It would look like:

DVSWITCH=./DVSwitch_ASLtoDMR.ini MMDVM_Bridge ./MMDVM_Bridge_ASLtoDMR.ini
and
DVSWITCH=./DVSwitch_YSFtoDMR.ini MMDVM_Bridge ./MMDVM_Bridge_YSFtoDMR.ini

But, your method works just fine and I would not change it.
Does each Analog Bridge instance needs its own DV300U?
Yes.  In order to encode or decode in a specific mode (DMR, DSATR, etc) you must dedicate a DV3000U to that process.  However, in your case, do not forget that you also have the emulator for AMBE encodes/decodes.  Like the DV3000U you should dedicate a "process" to each AB instance, but that just means you have to launch each emulator with a unique port to communicate to AB through.

I could not make out the diagram that explains the port assignment.
Sorry!  A really need to use a real drawing program rather than ASCII art.  It main point of the diagram is that each step along the way needs to communicate with its "partner" through a common set of ports.  Transmit (TXPort) on one side is the same as RXPort on the other.  Regardless of the data type moving from one process to another, just select a complementary set of ports and you will be good.  Make sure that you do not reuse those ports someplace else in your system by using netstat -unap. 

but the audio never went out over to DMR 

This is where the ini and log files are needed to debug.  The ini files will show us the ports you assigned to each step and the log files will show us what happens when data is presented to a port.
I had the wrong audio format

Whenever you see this message you are sending the wrong audio type (TLV) to MB.  For that mode look at the RXPort.  Now go find all TXPorts in your system that match it.  Are they all the same AMBE/IMBE/DSAMBE type?  If AB is sending type A and MB is expecting type B you will see this message.  Look at the sender.

Hope this helps
Mike

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