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Re: P25Reflector

Steve N4IRS
 

Mike,
I have yet to see a P25Reflector top out. There are 60 repeaters and hotspots connected to the P25NA reflector and it's not even breathing heavy. I know people that run the reflector software on a Pi.

Steve

On 6/19/2018 9:51 AM, KB8JNM wrote:
So Steve,
How much resources does it require for a P25 reflector ?
While, am not currently headed that way, I do want to reserve some stuff in advance.
SO how many streams might I support per cpu/mem I guess to be more pointed about it.


Re: P25Reflector

Mike KB8JNM
 

So Steve,
How much resources does it require for a P25 reflector ?
While, am not currently headed that way, I do want to reserve some stuff in advance.
SO how many streams might I support per cpu/mem I guess to be more pointed about it.


Re: [App_rpt-users] ASL Digital Radio/MMDVM Intro Tech "NET" Tues June 19 @ 00:30z

Bob
 


Hi Steve

Ok tks.   Got the day wrong !!

I will try again tomorrow

73
Bob
VK6ZGN

On 19 June 2018 09:11:39 "Steve N4IRS" <szingman@...> wrote:

It's tomorrow.

On 06/18/2018 08:43 PM, Bob wrote:

Hi

Can anyone tell me if the Tech Net is on today ?

 

"Getting Started with"

Digital Modes / DMR  /YSF /P25 /DSTAR /NXDN using MMDVM and bridging these to ALLSTAR

To be held on the Allstar Network at

8:30 pm esdst / 00:30 utc  - TUES JUNE 19, 2018

 

 

73

Bob

VK6ZGN




Re: [App_rpt-users] ASL Digital Radio/MMDVM Intro Tech "NET" Tues June 19 @ 00:30z

Steve N4IRS
 

It's tomorrow.

On 06/18/2018 08:43 PM, Bob wrote:

Hi

Can anyone tell me if the Tech Net is on today ?

 

"Getting Started with"

Digital Modes / DMR  /YSF /P25 /DSTAR /NXDN using MMDVM and bridging these to ALLSTAR

To be held on the Allstar Network at

8:30 pm esdst / 00:30 utc  - TUES JUNE 19, 2018

 

 

73

Bob

VK6ZGN



[App_rpt-users] ASL Digital Radio/MMDVM Intro Tech "NET" Tues June 19 @ 00:30z

Bob
 

Hi

Can anyone tell me if the Tech Net is on today ?

 

"Getting Started with"

Digital Modes / DMR  /YSF /P25 /DSTAR /NXDN using MMDVM and bridging these to ALLSTAR

To be held on the Allstar Network at

8:30 pm esdst / 00:30 utc  - TUES JUNE 19, 2018

 

 

73

Bob

VK6ZGN


Re: P25Reflector

Steve N4IRS
 

You are aware that we are discussing P25Reflectors?
 The point I keep making is that there is nothing stopping someone from standing up a reflector that is not in the host file as published. Though NXDN reflectors work a little differently then P25Reflectors.

On 06/18/2018 07:47 PM, Kevin Halton wrote:

Here are 4 NXDN reflectors all working without a glitch.

 

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of af5xp via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 5:41 PM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] P25Reflector

 

Steve,
         Also there are some as I that have local private P25 Reflectors running that are not listed. 



Re: P25Reflector

Kevin Halton
 

Here are 4 NXDN reflectors all working without a glitch.

 

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of af5xp via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 5:41 PM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] P25Reflector

 

Steve,
         Also there are some as I that have local private P25 Reflectors running that are not listed. 


Re: P25Reflector

Steve N4IRS
 

That is correct. What I posted was directly from the P25Gateway.txt as shipped from github.

On 06/18/2018 05:41 PM, af5xp via Groups.Io wrote:
Steve,
         Also there are some as I that have local private P25 Reflectors running that are not listed. 


Re: P25Reflector

Christopher AF5XP
 

Steve,
         Also there are some as I that have local private P25 Reflectors running that are not listed. 


Re: P25Reflector

Steve N4IRS
 

Jeff,
For the numbering system, MMDVM borrowed from P25NX or DMR. You can see the existing list in the P25Hosts.txt that is part of the P25Gateway package.
 
# World Wide, 1010x
10100    85.119.82.151    41000

# North America, 1020x
10200 dvswitch.org  41000
10201 dvswitch.org  41010

# Europe, 1030x
10300    176.9.1.168    41000
10301    ea5gvk.duckdns.org    41000

# Pacific, 1040x
10400    pacificp25.repeaters.info    41000
10401    pacifictac1.repeaters.info    41010
10402    47.104.177.248                41000
10403    120.234.41.144                41000

# America-Ragchew, 28299
28299    65.101.7.51    41000

# Alabama Link
31010    p25.alabamalink.info    41000

# 31665 P25-DMR Gateway
31665    74.91.127.166    41000

# 31672 P25 Pi-Star chat
31672    w1msg.trianglenc.net        41000

# 50525 Bridge to YSF, NXDN and DMR
50525    50525.p25dvm.com    41000

This reads as TG address of reflector port number. If you notice,  North America, 1020x has 2 reflector on the same host. Each reflector is listening on a different UDP port.
The reflector does not actually care about the TG # used. It's the job of P25Gateway to switch to the reflector based on the TG transmitted by MMDVM_Bridge. Once the connection is made, traffic flows until P25Gateway sees a different TG.

Hope this helps, Steve

On 06/18/2018 04:17 PM, Jeff Carrier wrote:
Not sure if this belongs in one of the subgroups.  Is there a way to host multiple talkgroups on one reflector or would I need to host those on multiple machines?  Speaking of reflector talkgroups, how do I pick a number that doesn't clash with the overall P25 network?  At this point I'm running one privately but I'm curious on the numbering convention being used.


P25Reflector

Jeff Carrier
 

Not sure if this belongs in one of the subgroups.  Is there a way to host multiple talkgroups on one reflector or would I need to host those on multiple machines?  Speaking of reflector talkgroups, how do I pick a number that doesn't clash with the overall P25 network?  At this point I'm running one privately but I'm curious on the numbering convention being used.


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

Steve N4IRS
 

I was just looking at the question of running MMDVM_Bridge on the same host as XLX. If I understand XLX properly, he would need 2 instances.
XLX <-> MMDVM_Bridge1 <-> MMDVM_Bridge2 <-> BM

Basically, use 2 instances of MMDVM_Bridge to both act as clients to their respective servers. 

On 6/18/2018 9:11 AM, KB8JNM wrote:
i would think you might be able to run a "new instance" with different ports.
Where would the conflict be. Or are you suggesting you would be able to do this under the 'same instance' ?


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

Mike KB8JNM
 

i would think you might be able to run a "new instance" with different ports.
Where would the conflict be. Or are you suggesting you would be able to do this under the 'same instance' ?


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

Steve N4IRS
 

Ken,
I don't see why you could not run both on the same hosts. MMDVM_Bridge would allow you to change any of the port numbers to resolve any port conflicts.

Steve

On 6/18/2018 8:08 AM, Ken Jamrogowicz via Groups.Io wrote:
I would like to do this.  Can the MMDVM_Bridge instances run on the same PC? as XLX or would something like port conflicts cause a problem?

Ken
KE2N


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

Ken KE2N
 

I would like to do this.  Can the MMDVM_Bridge instances run on the same PC? as XLX or would something like port conflicts cause a problem?

Ken
KE2N


Re: Random-ish audio artifacts

Mike KB8JNM
 

Use the text in node definition as per the how2 draft.
It is the port settings that is important here for what is actually connected to your gateway/usrp.definition.
If that node is publicly defined node # or not. It must be "by itself" with those settings. It must not be defined in any other way outside of the node number for it to work.
My advise is,  make it work as prescribed before making changes desired.
You might understand it more/better.
But if you are running that as shown, you are creating havoc on the dmr port and must stop.

Put simply, the analog port gateway (usrp) must be defined as a 'separate node' without all/most of allstar options or you are going to make a mess and possibly get a bunch of hate mail from dmr users you are screwing up the channel for.



Re: Random-ish audio artifacts

KM4OKU
 

Allright. Just in case we got our wires crossed, I have another node that I use to connect the "public" asl side of this bridge to, it seems that is similar to your suggestion of using 1999. 

On Jun 15, 2018, at 7:25 PM, KB8JNM <groupio@...> wrote:

I hate to say it but you are going about this in the wrong way. Stop what you are doing.
Define your node with the usrp as 1999 first just as the how2 shows.
Then define your radio node with the echolink connection
When you are ready to have the gateway on the repeater, connect 1999 for rx or tx
*21999  / *31999 and *1999 to disconnect it.
You can not configure these to be on all the time on the same node. Not going to happen.
Sorry, I'm on short time right now so that is the quick answer.


Re: Random-ish audio artifacts

Mike KB8JNM
 

I hate to say it but you are going about this in the wrong way. Stop what you are doing.
Define your node with the usrp as 1999 first just as the how2 shows.
Then define your radio node with the echolink connection
When you are ready to have the gateway on the repeater, connect 1999 for rx or tx
*21999  / *31999 and *1999 to disconnect it.
You can not configure these to be on all the time on the same node. Not going to happen.
Sorry, I'm on short time right now so that is the quick answer.


Re: Random-ish audio artifacts

KM4OKU
 

Here is my rpt.conf file. I did remove the stanzas related to cop commands etc... All that was commented out.

; Radio Repeater configuration file (for use with app_rpt)


; Your Repeater

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

[46090] ; Change this to your assigned node number 

                                        ; Must also be enabled in modules.conf
; Rx audio/signalling channel. Choose ONLY 1 per node stanza

; Enable the selected channel driver in modules.conf !!!
;rxchannel = dahdi/pseudo         ; No radio (hub)
; rxchannel = SimpleUSB/usb_46090 ; SimpleUSB 
; rxchannel = Pi/1                      ; Raspberry Pi PiTA 
; rxchannel = Radio/usb_46090 ; USBRadio (DSP) 
; rxchannel = Dahdi/1 ; PCI Quad card 
; rxchannel = Beagle/1 ; BeagleBoard 
rxchannel = USRP/127.0.0.1:34001:32001; GNU Radio interface USRP  

duplex = 0                              ; 0 = Half duplex with no telemetry tones or hang time.
                                        ;     Special Case: Full duplex if linktolink is set to yes.
                                        ;     This mode is preferred when interfacing with an external multiport repeater controller.
;     Comment out idrecording and idtalkover to suppress IDs also
                                        ; 1 = Half duplex with telemetry tones and hang time. Does not repeat audio.
                                        ;     This mode is preferred when interfacing a simplex node.
                                        ; 2 = Full Duplex with telemetry tones and hang time.
                                        ;     This mode is preferred when interfacing a repeater.
                                        ; 3 = Full Duplex with telemetry tones and hang time, but no repeated audio.
                                        ; 4 = Full Duplex with telemetry tones and hang time. Repeated audio only when the autopatch is down.

linktolink = yes ; disables forcing physical half-duplex operation of main repeater while
; still keeping half-duplex semantics (optional)

linkmongain = 0 ; Link Monitor Gain adjusts the audio level of monitored nodes when a signal from another node or the local receiver is received.
; If linkmongain is set to a negative number the monitored audio will decrease by the set amount in db.
; If linkmongain set to a positive number monitored audio will increase by the set amount in db.
; The value of linkmongain is in db. The default value is 0 db.

erxgain = -3 ; Echolink receive gain adjustment
; Note: Gain is in db-volts (20logVI/VO)
etxgain = 3 ; Echolink transmit gain adjustment
; Note: Gain is in db-volts (20logVI/VO)
;eannmode = 1                           ; 1 = Say only node number on echolink connects (default = 1)
                                        ; 2 = say phonetic call sign only on echolink connects
                                        ; 3 = say phonetic call sign and node number on echolink connects

;controlstates = controlstates ; system control state stanza

scheduler = schedule ; scheduler stanza
functions = functions ; Repeater Function stanza
phone_functions = functions ; Phone Function stanza
link_functions = functions ; Link Function stanza

telemetry = telemetry ; Telemetry stanza
morse = morse ; Morse stanza
wait_times = wait-times ; Wait times stanza

context = radio ; dialing context for phone
callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> ; callerid for phone calls
accountcode = RADIO                     ; account code (optional)

hangtime = 20 ; squelch tail hang time (in ms) (optional, default 5 seconds, 5000 ms)
althangtime = 20 ; longer squelch tail
totime = 180000 ; transmit time-out time (in ms) (optional, default 3 minutes 180000 ms)

idrecording = |i KM4OKU ; Main ID message
idtalkover = |i KM4OKU ; Talkover ID message
; See Telemetry section Example: idrecording = rpt/nodenames/46090
idtime = 540000 ; id interval time (in ms) (optional) Default 5 minutes (300000 ms)
politeid = 30000 ; time in milliseconds before ID timer expires to try and ID in the tail. (optional, default 30000)

unlinkedct = ct2 ; Send a this courtesy tone when the user unkeys if the node is not connected to any other nodes. (optional, default is none)
remotect = ct3 ; remote linked courtesy tone (indicates a remote is in the list of links)
linkunkeyct = ct8 ; sent when a transmission received over the link unkeys
;nolocallinkct = 0 ; Send unlinkedct instead if another local node is connected to this node (hosted on the same PC).

;connpgm = yourconnectprogram ; Disabled. Execute a program you specify on connect. (default)
; passes 2 command line arguments to your program: 
; 1. node number in this stanza (us)
; 2. node number being connected to us (them)
;discpgm = yourdisconnectprogram ; Disabled. Execute a program you specify on disconnect. (default)
; passes 2 command line arguments to your program: 
; 1. node number in this stanza (us)
; 2. node number being disconnected from us (them)

;lnkactenable = 0 ; Set to 1 to enable the link activity timer. Applicable to standard nodes only.

;lnkacttime = 1800 ; Link activity timer time in seconds.
;lnkactmacro = *52 ; Function to execute when link activity timer expires.
;lnkacttimerwarn = 30seconds ; Message to play when the link activity timer has 30 seconds left.

;remote_inact_timeout = ; Specifies the amount of time without keying from the link. Set to 0 to disable timeout. (15 * 60)
;remote_timeout = ; Session time out for remote base. Set to 0 to disable. (60 * 60)
;remote_timeout_warning_freq = ; 30
;remote_timeout_warning = ; (3 * 60) 

;nounkeyct = 0 ; Set to a 1 to eliminate courtesy tones and associated delays.

holdofftelem = 0 ; Hold off all telemetry when signal is present on receiver or from connected nodes
; except when an ID needs to be done and there is a signal coming from a connected node.

telemdefault = 2                        ; 0 = telemetry output off
                                        ; 1 = telemetry output on (default = 1)
                                        ; 2 = timed telemetry output on command execution and for a short time thereafter.

telemdynamic = 1                        ; 0 = disallow users to change the local telemetry setting with a COP command,
                                        ; 1 = Allow users to change the setting with a COP command. (default = 1)

;beaconing = 0 ; Send ID regardless of repeater activity (Required in the UK, but probably illegal in the US)

parrotmode = 0 ; 0 = Parrot Off (default = 0)
; 1 = Parrot On Command
; 2 = Parrot Always
; 3 = Parrot Once by Command

parrottime = 1000 ; Set the amount of time in milliseconds 
; to wait before parroting what was received

;rxnotch=1065,40                        ; (Optional) Notch a particular frequency for a specified
                                        ; b/w. app_rpt must have been compiled with
                                        ; the notch option

startup_macro = 

; nodenames = /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt/nodenames.callsign ; Point to alternate nodename sound directory

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
; Need more information on these

;extnodes = extnodes-different ; section in extnodefile containing dynamic node information (optional)
;extnodefile = /foo/nodes ; Points to nodelist file containing dynamic node info default = /var/lib/asterisk/rpt_extnodes (optional)
;extnodefile2 = ; Is this a list of node files? Possible a list of private nodes or a list of static IPs for known nodes???? 
;nodenames = /foo/names         ; locaton of node sound files default = /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt/nodenames
;archivedir = /tmp              ; defines and enables activity recording into specified directory (optional)
;monminblocks = 2048            ; Min 1K blocks to be left on partition (will not save monitor output if disk too full)

;                               ; The tailmessagetime,tailsquashedtime, and tailmessagelist need to be set
;                               ; to support tail messages. They can be omitted otherwise.
;tailmessagetime = 300000       ; Play a tail message every 5 mins
;tailsquashedtime = 30000       ; If squashed by another user,
;                               ; try again after 30 seconds
;tailmessagelist = msg1,msg2    ; list of messages to be played for tail message

; alt_functions
; ctgroup
; dphone_functions
; idtime
; iobase
; iospeed
; locallist
; mars Remote Base
; memory
; nobusyout
; nodes
; nolocallinkct
; notelemtx
; outxlat
; parrot
; propagate_phonedtmf
; rptnode
; rptinactmacro  Macro to execute when inactivity timer expires 
; rptinacttime   Inactivity timer time in seconds  (0 seconds disables feature)
; rxnotch Optional Audio notch
; simplexphonedelay
; tonemacro
; tonezone
; txlimits


;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;




[telemetry]

; Telemetry entries can be shared across all repeaters, or defined for each repeater.
; Can be a tone sequence, morse string, or a file
;
; |t - Tone escape sequence
;
; Tone sequences consist of 1 or more 4-tuple entries (freq1, freq2, duration, amplitude)
; Single frequencies are created by setting freq1 or freq2 to zero.
;
; |m - Morse escape sequence
; Sends Morse code at the telemetry amplitude and telemetry frequency as defined in the
; [morse] section.
;
; Follow with an alphanumeric string
;
; |i - Morse ID escape sequence
;
; Sends Morse code at the ID amplitude and ID frequency as defined in the
; [morse] section.
;
; path/to/sound/file/without/extension
;
; Send the sound if in place of a constructed tone. Do not include the file extension
; Example: ct8 = rpt/bloop
; Example: idrecording = rpt/nodenames/46090

ct1 = |t(350,0,100,2048)(500,0,100,2048)(660,0,100,2048)
ct2 = |t(660,880,150,2048)  
ct3 = |t(440,0,150,4096) 
ct4 = |t(550,0,150,2048)
ct5 = |t(660,0,150,2048)
ct6 = |t(880,0,150,2048)
ct7 = |t(660,440,150,2048)
ct8 = |t(700,1100,150,2048)
ranger = |t(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,150,0)
remotemon = |t(1209,0,50,2048)                                  ; local courtesy tone when receive only
remotetx = |t(1633,0,50,3000)(0,0,80,0)(1209,0,50,3000) ; local courtesy tone when linked Trancieve mode
cmdmode = |t(900,903,200,2048)
functcomplete = |t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048)
remcomplete = |t(650,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(650,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(650,0,100,2048)
pfxtone = |t(350,440,30000,3072)
patchup = rpt/callproceeding
patchdown = rpt/callterminated

; As far as what the numbers mean,
; (000,000,010,000)
;   |   |   |   |-------amplitude
;   |   |   |-------------duration
;   |   |-------------------Tone 2
;   |-------------------------Tone 1

; So, with 0,0,10,0 That says No Tone1, No Tone2, 10ms duration, 0 Amplitude.
; Use it for a delay.  Fine tuning for how long before telemetry is sent, in conjunction with the telemdelay parameter)
; The numbers, like 350,440,10,2048 are 350Hz, 440Hz, 10ms delay, amplitude of 2048.

; Morse code parameters, these are common to all repeaters.

[morse]
speed = 20 ; Approximate speed in WPM
frequency = 800 ; Morse Telemetry Frequency
amplitude = 4096 ; Morse Telemetry Amplitude
idfrequency = 1065 ; Morse ID Frequency
idamplitude = 1024 ; Morse ID Amplitude

;
; This section allows wait times for telemetry events to be adjusted
; A section for wait times can be defined for every repeater
;

[wait-times]                                                                                                 
telemwait = 20                        ; Time to wait before sending most telemetry
idwait = 500                            ; Time to wait before starting ID
unkeywait = 20                        ; Time to wait after unkey before sending CT's and link telemetry
calltermwait = 20                     ; Time to wait before announcing "call terminated"



; Scheduler - execute a macro at a given time

[schedule]                                                                      
;dtmf_function =  m h dom mon dow  ; ala cron, star is implied                                                  
;2 = 00 00 * * *   ; at midnight, execute macro 2.       

#includeifexists custom/rpt.conf

       


On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:26 PM KB8JNM <groupio@...> wrote:
Could you post to me/ or email the dmr node attachment 's rpt.conf file entry
If it is a private node or public   the "node that the usrp has connection to".


Re: Random-ish audio artifacts

Mike KB8JNM
 

To be short and clear this is from the latest How2. And Steve shot me this when I had my issues.

What I found at the heart of my issue was that I assumed many things not described would not have a value and the problem with that is,
it's dead wrong. Some things have default values loaded when nothing has been described.
Not normally a issue if we were only using allstar nodes, you would not hear or effect anything.
But the usrp-analog-mmdvm is always "ON".
So start with this + your link to link / duplex etc
but if anything crates output on the dmr side, you will not realize what is happening but disruption tx on the dmr side. You can use BM's pipeline to monitor tx's by id and duration for some added insight. Set it for the TG you are working with in your connection.
Set logs to '5' and check files for added info.

; Radio Repeater configuration file (for use with app_rpt)


; Your Repeater


;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;


[1999]

rxchannel = USRP/127.0.0.1:34001:32001  ; Use the USRP channel driver. Must be enabled in modules.conf

                                       ; 127.0.0.1 = IP of the target application

                                       ; 34001 = UDP port the target application is listening on

                                       ; 32001 = UDP port ASL is listening on


duplex = 0                              ; 0 = Half duplex with no telemetry tones or hang time. Ah, but Allison STILL talks!


hangtime = 0                            ; squelch tail hang time 0

althangtime = 0                         ; longer squelch tail hang time 0


holdofftelem = 1                        ; Hold off all telemetry when signal is present on receiver or from connected nodes

                                       ; except when an ID needs to be done and there is a signal coming from a connected node.


telemdefault = 0                        ; 0 = telemetry output off. Don't send Allison to DMR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Trust me.


telemdynamic = 0                        ; 0 = disallow users to change the local telemetry setting with a COP command,


linktolink = no                         ; disables forcing physical half-duplex operation of main repeater while

                                       ; still keeping half-duplex semantics (optional)


nounkeyct = 1                           ; Set to a 1 to eliminate courtesy tones and associated delays.


totime = 180000                         ; transmit time-out time (in ms) (optional, default 3 minutes 180000 ms)


idrecording = |ie                       ; id recording or morse string see http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/87

idtalkover = |ie                        ; Talkover ID (optional) default is none see http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/129

 

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