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Re: XLX 2 XLX Connection

david bencini ik5xmk
 

Hi, nobody can point to me ?

How can i configure MMDVM_Bridge.ini (and DVSwitch.ini) to link one side XLX in DEXTRA ? Is it possibile ?
Is it necessary to have also ircddbgateway ?

Thank you
David


Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...audio quality

Corey Dean N3FE <n3fe@...>
 

Please do NOT link to a state talkgroup!  One of the deals with cbridge owners is not crosslinking other modes onto statewide talkgroups, unless of course you want to see them start disconnecting their links!

Corey n3fe

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 4:42 PM Neil k8it <k8it@...> wrote:
running half duplex no emphasis using default settings for node 1999 but I have tunned my private  node which I can make public if needed.. I also can provide ssh login if needed off list
what audio params should I play with, and is the best way to do it.
currently on t/g 3126
 
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK

Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] ASL to DMR Bridge...audiuo quality

How are you connected to the receiver? Pre-emphasised or de-emphasised? Are you running simplex or duplex? If duplex how does the audio sound out the analog transmitter? If simplex, is it a public node that can connect to another node for a audio report?
If all that is good, look at your audio levels from analog to digital.

Steve N4IRS

On 11/16/18 4:02 PM, Neil k8it wrote:
I got the analog bridge to work now. I am now trying to improve the audio quality of the audio sent to DMR.
I correctly am using USBRADIO for my private Allstar node with audio that sounds very compressed.
Would I be better off to switch to SIMPLEUSB?
Is there any tricks to getting more audio bandwidth?
 
 
 
 
 
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK


Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...audio quality

Neil k8it
 

jjc
n0pkt
what gain setting did you end up with
also thanks steve for the reply
still wondering how the gain levels affect audio bandwith
 
 
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink K8IT-L
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Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] ASL to DMR Bridge...audiuo quality

It's my experience that the audio is much wider in analog.  The largest issue that I had when setting up analog bridge was getting the levels adjusted correctly in terms of the gain control within analog bridge itself.  Once I was able to get those to a good level it all fell in place and sounds great now, and we are primarily using USBRADIO for all of our ASL nodes.

JJC
N0PKT

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 2:02 PM Neil k8it <k8it@...> wrote:
I got the analog bridge to work now. I am now trying to improve the audio quality of the audio sent to DMR.
I correctly am using USBRADIO for my private Allstar node with audio that sounds very compressed.
Would I be better off to switch to SIMPLEUSB?
Is there any tricks to getting more audio bandwidth?
 
 
 
 
 
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK


Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...audio quality

Steve N4IRS
 

Have toy listened to the analog audio on another analog node or IAXRPT etc?
You can control the audio levels in Analog_bridge.ini In the [USRP] stanza,setting aslAudio and dmrAudio to AUDIO_UNITY will keep provide no gain or reduction.

If you need to adjust the DMR -> ASL audio, change:
aslAudio = AUDIO_USE_GAIN

agcGain = 1.0
This should be the same level as AUDIO_UNITY

agcGain = 2.0
This should be twice as loud as AUDIO_UNITY

agcGain = 0.5
This should be half as loud as
AUDIO_UNITY  
=========================================

If you need to adjust the ASL -> DMR audio, change:
dmrAudio = AUDIO_USE_GAIN

dmrGain = 1.0
This should be the same level as AUDIO_UNITY

dmrGain = 2.0
This should be twice as loud as AUDIO_UNITY

dmrGain = 0.5
This should be half as loud as AUDIO_UNITY


On 11/16/18 4:42 PM, Neil k8it wrote:
running half duplex no emphasis using default settings for node 1999 but I have tunned my private  node which I can make public if needed.. I also can provide ssh login if needed off list
what audio params should I play with, and is the best way to do it.
currently on t/g 3126
 
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK

Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] ASL to DMR Bridge...audiuo quality

How are you connected to the receiver? Pre-emphasised or de-emphasised? Are you running simplex or duplex? If duplex how does the audio sound out the analog transmitter? If simplex, is it a public node that can connect to another node for a audio report?
If all that is good, look at your audio levels from analog to digital.

Steve N4IRS

On 11/16/18 4:02 PM, Neil k8it wrote:
I got the analog bridge to work now. I am now trying to improve the audio quality of the audio sent to DMR.
I correctly am using USBRADIO for my private Allstar node with audio that sounds very compressed.
Would I be better off to switch to SIMPLEUSB?
Is there any tricks to getting more audio bandwidth?
 
 
 
 
 
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK



Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...audio quality

Neil k8it
 

running half duplex no emphasis using default settings for node 1999 but I have tunned my private  node which I can make public if needed.. I also can provide ssh login if needed off list
what audio params should I play with, and is the best way to do it.
currently on t/g 3126
 
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK

Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] ASL to DMR Bridge...audiuo quality

How are you connected to the receiver? Pre-emphasised or de-emphasised? Are you running simplex or duplex? If duplex how does the audio sound out the analog transmitter? If simplex, is it a public node that can connect to another node for a audio report?
If all that is good, look at your audio levels from analog to digital.

Steve N4IRS

On 11/16/18 4:02 PM, Neil k8it wrote:
I got the analog bridge to work now. I am now trying to improve the audio quality of the audio sent to DMR.
I correctly am using USBRADIO for my private Allstar node with audio that sounds very compressed.
Would I be better off to switch to SIMPLEUSB?
Is there any tricks to getting more audio bandwidth?
 
 
 
 
 
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK


Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...audio quality

Steve N4IRS
 

How are you connected to the receiver? Pre-emphasised or de-emphasised? Are you running simplex or duplex? If duplex how does the audio sound out the analog transmitter? If simplex, is it a public node that can connect to another node for a audio report?
If all that is good, look at your audio levels from analog to digital.

Steve N4IRS

On 11/16/18 4:02 PM, Neil k8it wrote:
I got the analog bridge to work now. I am now trying to improve the audio quality of the audio sent to DMR.
I correctly am using USBRADIO for my private Allstar node with audio that sounds very compressed.
Would I be better off to switch to SIMPLEUSB?
Is there any tricks to getting more audio bandwidth?
 
 
 
 
 
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK


Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...audio quality

JJ Cummings
 

It's my experience that the audio is much wider in analog.  The largest issue that I had when setting up analog bridge was getting the levels adjusted correctly in terms of the gain control within analog bridge itself.  Once I was able to get those to a good level it all fell in place and sounds great now, and we are primarily using USBRADIO for all of our ASL nodes.

JJC
N0PKT

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 2:02 PM Neil k8it <k8it@...> wrote:
I got the analog bridge to work now. I am now trying to improve the audio quality of the audio sent to DMR.
I correctly am using USBRADIO for my private Allstar node with audio that sounds very compressed.
Would I be better off to switch to SIMPLEUSB?
Is there any tricks to getting more audio bandwidth?
 
 
 
 
 
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK


Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...audio quality

Neil k8it
 

I got the analog bridge to work now. I am now trying to improve the audio quality of the audio sent to DMR.
I correctly am using USBRADIO for my private Allstar node with audio that sounds very compressed.
Would I be better off to switch to SIMPLEUSB?
Is there any tricks to getting more audio bandwidth?
 
 
 
 
 
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK


Re: XLX 2 XLX Connection

david bencini ik5xmk
 

Hi,  because one XLX has hardware for transcode but one of they has not. It is a big problem when you have more XLXs. For this reason i need an ONLY dstar connection. Luc doesn't want to patch this ...
Any idea is welcome.
73. David


Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...reading talkgroups

Jeff Lehman, N8ACL
 

😊 Some times simple is the bestest 😊

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH
E-mail: kc8qch@gmail.com
http://kc8qch.dx.am
Hamshack Hotline: 4218

Webmaster
Hamilton County ARPSC
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Phone: 513-452-6480

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World Wide Amateur Radio Guild
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E-Mail: kc8qch@theguildglobal.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gregory Heinrichs
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 21:10
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] ASL to DMR Bridge...reading talkgroups

That is a good point. I will do that.

On 11/15/18 5:55 PM, Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH wrote:

Or why not when you run the script to change TG’s just write the new
talkgroup to a text file since you have it already? No need to pull it
from anywhere. Then just read the Text file into your webpage.



Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

E-mail: kc8qch@gmail.com

http://kc8qch.dx.am
Hamshack Hotline: 4218



Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

E-mail: hamcoarpsc@gmail.com

Phone: 513-452-6480



Allstar 47374 Administrator

World Wide Amateur Radio Guild

http://www.theguildglobal.org

E-Mail: kc8qch@theguildglobal.net



*From:* main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> *On Behalf
Of *Steve N4IRS
*Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2018 20:49
*To:* main@DVSwitch.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [DVSwitch] ASL to DMR Bridge...reading talkgroups



My short off the top of my head answer. If you know what TG you
started on and tracked the changes, you know where you are.

Pseudo code:
Start the bridge
Send AB/MB to TG 9
Echo 9 to text file
From this point on, any change to the TG goes through the script and
the text file contains the current TG.

No matter where you go, there you are.

As I said, Mike and I have been talking about Metadata. AB exchanges
Metadata across the USRP channel. That is how a Transcoder sends
Metadata across the transcoder. MB1 <-> AB1 <-> AB2 <-MB2> There is a
need to be able to get metadata from MB1 to MB2 That data is passed
across the USRP channel (The connection between AB1 and AB2) The ASL
USRP channel drive does not send or receive Matadata. We are
discussing strategies to add Metadata to ASL without modifing the USRP
channel driver. Think AMI.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 11/15/18 8:32 PM, Michael Weaver - AC2VK wrote:

I was going to post the same question today. So +1 for this. A way
to query what the current talkgroup is.




Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...reading talkgroups

Gregory Heinrichs
 

That is a good point. I will do that.

On 11/15/18 5:55 PM, Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH wrote:

Or why not when you run the script to change TG’s just write the new
talkgroup to a text file since you have it already? No need to pull it
from anywhere. Then just read the Text file into your webpage.

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

E-mail: kc8qch@gmail.com

http://kc8qch.dx.am
Hamshack Hotline: 4218

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

E-mail: hamcoarpsc@gmail.com

Phone: 513-452-6480

 

Allstar 47374 Administrator

World Wide Amateur Radio Guild

http://www.theguildglobal.org

E-Mail: kc8qch@theguildglobal.net

 

*From:* main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> *On Behalf
Of *Steve N4IRS
*Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2018 20:49
*To:* main@DVSwitch.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [DVSwitch] ASL to DMR Bridge...reading talkgroups

 

My short off the top of my head answer. If you know what TG you
started on and tracked the changes, you know where you are.

Pseudo code:
Start the bridge
Send AB/MB to TG 9
Echo 9 to text file
From this point on, any change to the TG goes through the script and
the text file contains the current TG.

No matter where you go, there you are.

As I said, Mike and I have been talking about Metadata. AB exchanges
Metadata across the USRP channel. That is how a Transcoder sends
Metadata across the transcoder. MB1 <-> AB1 <-> AB2 <-MB2> There is a
need to be able to get metadata from MB1 to MB2 That data is passed
across the USRP channel (The connection between AB1 and AB2) The ASL
USRP channel drive does not send or receive Matadata. We are
discussing strategies to add Metadata to ASL without modifing the USRP
channel driver. Think AMI.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 11/15/18 8:32 PM, Michael Weaver - AC2VK wrote:

I was going to post the same question today. So +1 for this. A way
to query what the current talkgroup is.

 


Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...reading talkgroups

Jeff Lehman, N8ACL
 

Or why not when you run the script to change TG’s just write the new talkgroup to a text file since you have it already? No need to pull it from anywhere. Then just read the Text file into your webpage.

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

E-mail: kc8qch@...

http://kc8qch.dx.am
Hamshack Hotline: 4218

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

E-mail: hamcoarpsc@...

Phone: 513-452-6480

 

Allstar 47374 Administrator

World Wide Amateur Radio Guild

http://www.theguildglobal.org

E-Mail: kc8qch@...

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve N4IRS
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 20:49
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] ASL to DMR Bridge...reading talkgroups

 

My short off the top of my head answer. If you know what TG you started on and tracked the changes, you know where you are.

Pseudo code:
Start the bridge
Send AB/MB to TG 9
Echo 9 to text file
From this point on, any change to the TG goes through the script and the text file contains the current TG.

No matter where you go, there you are.

As I said, Mike and I have been talking about Metadata. AB exchanges Metadata across the USRP channel. That is how a Transcoder sends Metadata across the transcoder. MB1 <-> AB1 <-> AB2 <-MB2> There is a need to be able to get metadata from MB1 to MB2 That data is passed across the USRP channel (The connection between AB1 and AB2) The ASL USRP channel drive does not send or receive Matadata. We are discussing strategies to add Metadata to ASL without modifing the USRP channel driver. Think AMI.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 11/15/18 8:32 PM, Michael Weaver - AC2VK wrote:

I was going to post the same question today. So +1 for this. A way to query what the current talkgroup is.

 


Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...reading talkgroups

Steve N4IRS
 

My short off the top of my head answer. If you know what TG you started on and tracked the changes, you know where you are.

Pseudo code:
Start the bridge
Send AB/MB to TG 9
Echo 9 to text file
From this point on, any change to the TG goes through the script and the text file contains the current TG.

No matter where you go, there you are.

As I said, Mike and I have been talking about Metadata. AB exchanges Metadata across the USRP channel. That is how a Transcoder sends Metadata across the transcoder. MB1 <-> AB1 <-> AB2 <-MB2> There is a need to be able to get metadata from MB1 to MB2 That data is passed across the USRP channel (The connection between AB1 and AB2) The ASL USRP channel drive does not send or receive Matadata. We are discussing strategies to add Metadata to ASL without modifing the USRP channel driver. Think AMI.

73, Steve N4IRS


On 11/15/18 8:32 PM, Michael Weaver - AC2VK wrote:
I was going to post the same question today. So +1 for this. A way to query what the current talkgroup is.


Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...reading talkgroups

Michael Weaver - AC2VK
 

I was going to post the same question today. So +1 for this. A way to query what the current talkgroup is.


Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...reading talkgroups

Steve N4IRS
 

OK, we have been discussing Metadata in general. I don't have a quick answer right now.

Steve N4IRS

On 11/15/18 7:24 PM, Gregory Heinrichs wrote:

with the same principal, call a python script, so i can return the talkgroup number to a webpage.

On 11/15/18 4:22 PM, Steve N4IRS wrote:
Define read. Voice feedback? Allison?

On 11/15/18 7:21 PM, Gregory Heinrichs wrote:
I can change the talkgroup via code below, i was wondering it there is a way to read it as well?
[code]
_sock = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_DGRAM)
cmd = struct.pack("BB", 0x05, len(cmd))[0:2] + cmd
# Set the second value below to match the rxPort in the [AMBE_AUDIO] stanza of Analog_Bridge.ini
_sock.sendto(cmd, ('127.0.0.1', 31100))
_sock.close()
[/code]



Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...reading talkgroups

Gregory Heinrichs
 

with the same principal, call a python script, so i can return the talkgroup number to a webpage.

On 11/15/18 4:22 PM, Steve N4IRS wrote:
Define read. Voice feedback? Allison?

On 11/15/18 7:21 PM, Gregory Heinrichs wrote:
I can change the talkgroup via code below, i was wondering it there is a way to read it as well?
[code]
_sock = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_DGRAM)
cmd = struct.pack("BB", 0x05, len(cmd))[0:2] + cmd
# Set the second value below to match the rxPort in the [AMBE_AUDIO] stanza of Analog_Bridge.ini
_sock.sendto(cmd, ('127.0.0.1', 31100))
_sock.close()
[/code]


Re: ASL to DMR Bridge...reading talkgroups

Steve N4IRS
 

Define read. Voice feedback? Allison?

On 11/15/18 7:21 PM, Gregory Heinrichs wrote:
I can change the talkgroup via code below, i was wondering it there is a way to read it as well?
[code]
_sock = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_DGRAM)
cmd = struct.pack("BB", 0x05, len(cmd))[0:2] + cmd
# Set the second value below to match the rxPort in the [AMBE_AUDIO] stanza of Analog_Bridge.ini
_sock.sendto(cmd, ('127.0.0.1', 31100))
_sock.close()
[/code]


ASL to DMR Bridge...reading talkgroups

Gregory Heinrichs
 

I can change the talkgroup via code below, i was wondering it there is a way to read it as well?
[code]
_sock = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_DGRAM)
cmd = struct.pack("BB", 0x05, len(cmd))[0:2] + cmd
# Set the second value below to match the rxPort in the [AMBE_AUDIO] stanza of Analog_Bridge.ini
_sock.sendto(cmd, ('127.0.0.1', 31100))
_sock.close()
[/code]


Re: XLX 2 XLX Connection

Florian Wolters
 

Hi David,

why don't you use the built-in XLX interlink protocol?

vy73 de Florian DF2ET


Am 15.11.18 um 17:32 schrieb david bencini ik5xmk:

Hello, sorry if I'm possibly mistaken group. Can you tell me the
procedure to activate, if possible, a connection (I suppose using
MMDVM_Bridge) between two XLX (example module B) but using a native
DSTAR protocol, such as DEXTRA or DCS? The comparison is with the old
XRF which for many reasons is no longer advisable to use it.
 
Thank you, 73
David IK5XMK


XLX 2 XLX Connection

david bencini ik5xmk
 

Hello, sorry if I'm possibly mistaken group. Can you tell me the procedure to activate, if possible, a connection (I suppose using MMDVM_Bridge) between two XLX (example module B) but using a native DSTAR protocol, such as DEXTRA or DCS? The comparison is with the old XRF which for many reasons is no longer advisable to use it.
 
Thank you, 73
David IK5XMK

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