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Re: DMR vs DSTAR

JJ Cummings
 

I think that md380-emu, as I noted before, (included in the DVSwitch package install) will do this, that's what we are using...


On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 2:48 PM Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> wrote:
Correct. The reason is that there does not exist a good open software codec to transcode D-Star (AMBE) and DMR (AMBE2+) as far as I know. So, some sort of AMBE hardware chip, like the DV3000, is used instead.

For example, I run two NW Digital ThumbDV dongles in my ambed server to transcode D-Star <-> DMR. I haven't used YSF (AMBE2+) or P25 (IMBE) but the idea may be the same, just would need more dongles to transcode more streams on the same module.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 4:37 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Ok, so I need necessarily some hardware for transcode DMR--->Dstar and viceversa?

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 22:33 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
In my case, I run ambed on a server at home, separate from my XLX server that's in a data center. The ambed service (included with xlxd) runs the transcoding for D-Star <-> DMR for the XLX server. In order to achieve transcoding, some DV3000 dongles are attached to the ambed server.

This setup is a bit more advanced/customized, since I have services running on separate servers. Also, we're talking more along the lines of xlxd now, which is out of scope for the DVSwitch group.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 4:04 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
OK Steve,
now all the connections seems to work, but, no audio pass from dstar to dmr .... the transmission is MUTE. Maybe I need some AMBE codec to install ?

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 19:58 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
The connection between MMDVM_Bridge to DMRGateway here is like this:

---
MMDVM_Bridge.ini

[DMR Network]
Enable=1
Address=127.0.0.1
Port=62031
Jitter=360
Local=62032
Password=passw0rd
Slot1=1
Slot2=1
Debug=0

---
DMRGateway.ini

[General]
Timeout=10
# RFTimeout=10
# NetTimeout=7
RptAddress=127.0.0.1
RptPort=62032
LocalAddress=127.0.0.1
LocalPort=62031
RuleTrace=0
Daemon=0
Debug=0

I assume you're running both programs on the same machine, so all addresses will be loopback.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 1:49 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Thank's Steve,
XLX connection is ok now. Can you give me an example how to "Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway" ?

tnx

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 19:03 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
If you are connecting to XLX, I used DMRGateway as well as MMDVM_Bridge. In DMRGateway.ini, you can set the XLX Network stanza similar to this:

[XLX Network]
Enabled=1
File=/var/lib/mmdvm/XLXHosts.txt
Port=62030
Password=passw0rd
ReloadTime=60
Slot=2
TG=6
Base=64000
Startup=740
Relink=60
Debug=0
Id=
UserControl=1
Module=B

Of course, use your own DMR ID on the Id= line. Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:57 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Hi,
I want to bridge DMR to an XLX module, I understand that I can use the DVSwitch tools and MMDVM_Bridge. I have to create 2 instances of MMDVM_Bridge but I don't understand how connect to a specific module of XLX one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.
Anyone ca help me to better understand?
thank's

73 de IT9CDU



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KC1AWV



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KC1AWV



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Re: DMR vs DSTAR

Steve KC1AWV
 

Correct. The reason is that there does not exist a good open software codec to transcode D-Star (AMBE) and DMR (AMBE2+) as far as I know. So, some sort of AMBE hardware chip, like the DV3000, is used instead.

For example, I run two NW Digital ThumbDV dongles in my ambed server to transcode D-Star <-> DMR. I haven't used YSF (AMBE2+) or P25 (IMBE) but the idea may be the same, just would need more dongles to transcode more streams on the same module.

Steve KC1AWV


On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 4:37 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Ok, so I need necessarily some hardware for transcode DMR--->Dstar and viceversa?

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 22:33 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
In my case, I run ambed on a server at home, separate from my XLX server that's in a data center. The ambed service (included with xlxd) runs the transcoding for D-Star <-> DMR for the XLX server. In order to achieve transcoding, some DV3000 dongles are attached to the ambed server.

This setup is a bit more advanced/customized, since I have services running on separate servers. Also, we're talking more along the lines of xlxd now, which is out of scope for the DVSwitch group.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 4:04 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
OK Steve,
now all the connections seems to work, but, no audio pass from dstar to dmr .... the transmission is MUTE. Maybe I need some AMBE codec to install ?

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 19:58 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
The connection between MMDVM_Bridge to DMRGateway here is like this:

---
MMDVM_Bridge.ini

[DMR Network]
Enable=1
Address=127.0.0.1
Port=62031
Jitter=360
Local=62032
Password=passw0rd
Slot1=1
Slot2=1
Debug=0

---
DMRGateway.ini

[General]
Timeout=10
# RFTimeout=10
# NetTimeout=7
RptAddress=127.0.0.1
RptPort=62032
LocalAddress=127.0.0.1
LocalPort=62031
RuleTrace=0
Daemon=0
Debug=0

I assume you're running both programs on the same machine, so all addresses will be loopback.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 1:49 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Thank's Steve,
XLX connection is ok now. Can you give me an example how to "Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway" ?

tnx

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 19:03 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
If you are connecting to XLX, I used DMRGateway as well as MMDVM_Bridge. In DMRGateway.ini, you can set the XLX Network stanza similar to this:

[XLX Network]
Enabled=1
File=/var/lib/mmdvm/XLXHosts.txt
Port=62030
Password=passw0rd
ReloadTime=60
Slot=2
TG=6
Base=64000
Startup=740
Relink=60
Debug=0
Id=
UserControl=1
Module=B

Of course, use your own DMR ID on the Id= line. Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:57 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Hi,
I want to bridge DMR to an XLX module, I understand that I can use the DVSwitch tools and MMDVM_Bridge. I have to create 2 instances of MMDVM_Bridge but I don't understand how connect to a specific module of XLX one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.
Anyone ca help me to better understand?
thank's

73 de IT9CDU



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV



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KC1AWV



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KC1AWV



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KC1AWV


Re: DMR vs DSTAR

Pierre Martel
 

Yes dmr is AMBE while Dstar is IMBE


Le lun. 14 janv. 2019 à 16:37, Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> a écrit :
Ok, so I need necessarily some hardware for transcode DMR--->Dstar and viceversa?

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 22:33 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
In my case, I run ambed on a server at home, separate from my XLX server that's in a data center. The ambed service (included with xlxd) runs the transcoding for D-Star <-> DMR for the XLX server. In order to achieve transcoding, some DV3000 dongles are attached to the ambed server.

This setup is a bit more advanced/customized, since I have services running on separate servers. Also, we're talking more along the lines of xlxd now, which is out of scope for the DVSwitch group.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 4:04 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
OK Steve,
now all the connections seems to work, but, no audio pass from dstar to dmr .... the transmission is MUTE. Maybe I need some AMBE codec to install ?

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 19:58 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
The connection between MMDVM_Bridge to DMRGateway here is like this:

---
MMDVM_Bridge.ini

[DMR Network]
Enable=1
Address=127.0.0.1
Port=62031
Jitter=360
Local=62032
Password=passw0rd
Slot1=1
Slot2=1
Debug=0

---
DMRGateway.ini

[General]
Timeout=10
# RFTimeout=10
# NetTimeout=7
RptAddress=127.0.0.1
RptPort=62032
LocalAddress=127.0.0.1
LocalPort=62031
RuleTrace=0
Daemon=0
Debug=0

I assume you're running both programs on the same machine, so all addresses will be loopback.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 1:49 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Thank's Steve,
XLX connection is ok now. Can you give me an example how to "Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway" ?

tnx

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 19:03 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
If you are connecting to XLX, I used DMRGateway as well as MMDVM_Bridge. In DMRGateway.ini, you can set the XLX Network stanza similar to this:

[XLX Network]
Enabled=1
File=/var/lib/mmdvm/XLXHosts.txt
Port=62030
Password=passw0rd
ReloadTime=60
Slot=2
TG=6
Base=64000
Startup=740
Relink=60
Debug=0
Id=
UserControl=1
Module=B

Of course, use your own DMR ID on the Id= line. Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:57 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Hi,
I want to bridge DMR to an XLX module, I understand that I can use the DVSwitch tools and MMDVM_Bridge. I have to create 2 instances of MMDVM_Bridge but I don't understand how connect to a specific module of XLX one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.
Anyone ca help me to better understand?
thank's

73 de IT9CDU



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: If you use HBlink OR dmr_utils, you need to read this

JJ Cummings
 

Cort - great stuff I just switched over so the stack now looks like this (for those that care)

DMRLink <-> IPSC_Bridge <-> HB_Bridge <-> hblink3(bridge) <-> Analog_Bridge <-> ASL

On a separate note, I noted a an error in the log specifically related  to openbridge (outbound only connections) looks like it's not registering that the END event has occurred when it happens and thusly it times out?.  Posting here but hopefully I can post a pull request if ever I get time to debug at all.

INFO 2019-01-14 14:16:30,526 (ANALOG_BRIDGE) *CALL END*   STREAM ID: 2752969323 SUB: 1108389 (1108389) PEER: 310857 (310857) TGID 310815 (310815), TS 1, Duration: 3.02
INFO 2019-01-14 14:16:35,780 (OBP-3103) *TIME OUT*   STREAM ID: 2752969323 SUB: 1108389 PEER: 310885350 TGID: 310815 TS 1 Duration: 3.02
INFO 2019-01-14 14:19:21,827 (ANALOG_BRIDGE) *CALL START* STREAM ID: 205043449 SUB: 1108389 (1108389) PEER: 310857 (310857) TGID 310815 (310815), TS 1
INFO 2019-01-14 14:19:21,878 (ANALOG_BRIDGE) Conference Bridge: 310815, Call Bridged to OBP System: OBP-3103 TS: 1, TGID: 310815
INFO 2019-01-14 14:19:24,859 (ANALOG_BRIDGE) *CALL END*   STREAM ID: 205043449 SUB: 1108389 (1108389) PEER: 310857 (310857) TGID 310815 (310815), TS 1, Duration: 3.03
INFO 2019-01-14 14:19:30,780 (OBP-3103) *TIME OUT*   STREAM ID: 205043449 SUB: 1108389 PEER: 310885350 TGID: 310815 TS 1 Duration: 3.03

On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 11:04 AM Cort N0MJS via Groups.Io <n0mjs=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Folks,

PYTHON2 BASED VERSIONS OF HBLINK AND DMR_UTILS ARE NOW SUNSET – ONLY BUG FIXES WILL BE OFFERED.



If you go looking at my repos on GitHub, you’ll see a couple of new things:

HBlink3 and dmr_utils3

These are Python3 versions of HBlink and dmr_utils. Currently, dmr_utils3 does not include ambe_bridge.py and HBlink3 does not include parrot or bridge_all – effectively leaving it as the base stack and the conference bridge application… there have also been some things renamed. I removed “hb_” from the beginning of all of the files, and I also renamed hb_confbridge.py to bridge.py. Likewise I renamed hb_confbridge_rules.py to rules.py. The main goal with the name changes is to make the first character or few unique. I’m a shitty typist to begin with, so being able to type b(tab) and get bridge.py is a lot easier than having to type out hb_confbridge.py all of the time… and I have to type those things a lot when I’m in full-on coding mode :)

As for the future of the other HBlink programs – some of that is going to be dependent on community support. I would love to see someone step up and port all_bridge.py and parrot.py to Python3. I will eventually get to them, but not soon because….

The master branch of HBlink3 is stable and has been running on the K0USY Group’s “KS-DMR” network all week. On our particular system, with the things we have configured, just moving to Python3 (ok, a few bits of refactoring as well) has given us a 15-20% performance boost (measured in time between packet ingress and processing completion). You will also notice another branch of HBlink3 called uvloop. With this branch I’m swapping out the venerable Twisted module for Python3’s built-in Asyncio module, and a “drop in replacement” for portions of it called uvLoop, an ultra-fast drop-in replacement for parts of Asyncio… just moving to Python3 gave us a nice bump. My hope is that the move to uvloop makes HBlink work much faster – potentially rivaling statically compiled to machine-code software.

I’ve already moved off of the master branch to work on the uvloop branch. This development will be rapid – because the goal is to have hblink.py and bridge.py working on uvloop ASAP. Once that is completed, I will go back and start filling in the gaps as well as adding features. I do not intend to back-port new features to the Python2 versions.

The HBlink3 master branch will support the existing python2 hbmonitor software. The uvloop branch will not. I intend to “burn down” the reporting “stuff” and start over with HBlink3 on uvloop. I am looking for javascript (and related browser code) developers to help with this. Hbmonitor is a bandwidth HOG. It renders the entirety of the HTML tables on the server for every incremental change, and pushes all of that HTML out to the browser. A busy system on HBmonitor can use close to 1Mbps of bandwidth for a single browser connected. The goal is to send much less information to the browser, and let the browser build the tables… but I don’t have a clue about programming that stuff. Co-developers welcome!!!

0x49 DE N0MJS



Cort Buffington
785-865-7206





Re: ASL to XLX in DSTAR mode ?

Ken KE2N
 

Hi Santu,

 

The point of my posting was to say that you can run the transcoder on a separate PC (and that you should use hardware for DSTAR).

 

My setup is probably not what you want.  The ASL link is to a DMR talk group:

Asterisk <-> chan_USRP <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> DMR TG

I have used the emulator with this, but right now I am running it with a ThumbDV.  That dongle is plugged directly into the DVSwitch PC.

 

The remotely-accessed AMBED setup is for another system that links DSTAR to C4FM. 

That one uses the XLX reflector to connect to C4FM by means of an Open Spot which translates DMRmmdvm to C4FM (RF) at the Fusion repeater location.

The XLX reflector runs in the Cloud and accesses any required transcoding from a Raspberry Pi running AMBED and with a 6 channel fob from NW Digital.

Two AMBE channels are required for my link, leaving 4 channels for up to 2 additional links by other users.

DV Switch is not used at all for that link.

 

73

Ken

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Santu OTTAVI (TK1BI)
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 3:10 PM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] ASL to XLX in DSTAR mode ?

 

Hi Ken,

Le 13/01/2019 à 17:59, Ken KE2N via Groups.Io a écrit :

We do that for XLX725, for example - it seems to be pretty reliable, at least with the services we use....    


Are you using the following setup for linking ASL with XLX using D-Star ?

Asterisk <-> chan_USRP <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> ircddbgatewayd <-> XLX


Tht's what I'm trying to do, with hardware AMBE encoder (AMBEServer on rPi with a ThumbDV), but it seems I'm still missing something :

When talking in D-Star on XLX, I can see on MMDVM_Bridge :

M: 2019-01-14 19:48:02.113 D-Star, received network header from TK1BI   /X755 to CQCQCQ   via XRF755 K
D: 2019-01-14 19:48:02.716 D-Star, lost audio for 300ms filling in, elapsed: 603ms, expected: 30, received: 0
D: 2019-01-14 19:48:03.023 D-Star, lost audio for 300ms filling in, elapsed: 910ms, expected: 45, received: 28
D: 2019-01-14 19:48:03.324 D-Star, lost audio for 300ms filling in, elapsed: 1211ms, expected: 60, received: 43
M: 2019-01-14 19:48:03.616 D-Star, network watchdog has expired, 1.2 seconds,  98% packet loss, BER: 0.0%


And when talking on the analog side, lots of

D: 2019-01-14 19:55:21.379 D-Star Network Data Sent
D: 2019-01-14 19:55:21.379 0000:  44 53 52 50 21 18 70 01 00 0E 46 12 2B 23 06 7C    *DSRP!.p...F.+#.|*
D: 2019-01-14 19:55:21.379 0010:  60 F8 16 29 F5  

but no voice at all, and gateway callsign not heard on the XLX side.

In both cases, ircddbgateway does not seem to be much verbose. I didn't manage to get anything in the log after that :

M: 2019-01-14 20:02:06: DCS link to DCS755 K established
M: 2019-01-14 20:02:06: Starting the Callsign Server thread

--
As most of the setups seem to be using DMR, and as my XLX has AMBE transcoding, I may have a try in DMR mode (with DMRGateway instead of ircddbgateway). But before doing that, I'd like to know if the D-Star setup described above works.

Thank you in advance. 73 de TK1BI


Re: DMR vs DSTAR

Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...>
 

Ok, so I need necessarily some hardware for transcode DMR--->Dstar and viceversa?

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 22:33 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
In my case, I run ambed on a server at home, separate from my XLX server that's in a data center. The ambed service (included with xlxd) runs the transcoding for D-Star <-> DMR for the XLX server. In order to achieve transcoding, some DV3000 dongles are attached to the ambed server.

This setup is a bit more advanced/customized, since I have services running on separate servers. Also, we're talking more along the lines of xlxd now, which is out of scope for the DVSwitch group.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 4:04 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
OK Steve,
now all the connections seems to work, but, no audio pass from dstar to dmr .... the transmission is MUTE. Maybe I need some AMBE codec to install ?

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 19:58 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
The connection between MMDVM_Bridge to DMRGateway here is like this:

---
MMDVM_Bridge.ini

[DMR Network]
Enable=1
Address=127.0.0.1
Port=62031
Jitter=360
Local=62032
Password=passw0rd
Slot1=1
Slot2=1
Debug=0

---
DMRGateway.ini

[General]
Timeout=10
# RFTimeout=10
# NetTimeout=7
RptAddress=127.0.0.1
RptPort=62032
LocalAddress=127.0.0.1
LocalPort=62031
RuleTrace=0
Daemon=0
Debug=0

I assume you're running both programs on the same machine, so all addresses will be loopback.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 1:49 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Thank's Steve,
XLX connection is ok now. Can you give me an example how to "Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway" ?

tnx

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 19:03 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
If you are connecting to XLX, I used DMRGateway as well as MMDVM_Bridge. In DMRGateway.ini, you can set the XLX Network stanza similar to this:

[XLX Network]
Enabled=1
File=/var/lib/mmdvm/XLXHosts.txt
Port=62030
Password=passw0rd
ReloadTime=60
Slot=2
TG=6
Base=64000
Startup=740
Relink=60
Debug=0
Id=
UserControl=1
Module=B

Of course, use your own DMR ID on the Id= line. Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:57 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Hi,
I want to bridge DMR to an XLX module, I understand that I can use the DVSwitch tools and MMDVM_Bridge. I have to create 2 instances of MMDVM_Bridge but I don't understand how connect to a specific module of XLX one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.
Anyone ca help me to better understand?
thank's

73 de IT9CDU



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: DMR vs DSTAR

Steve KC1AWV
 

In my case, I run ambed on a server at home, separate from my XLX server that's in a data center. The ambed service (included with xlxd) runs the transcoding for D-Star <-> DMR for the XLX server. In order to achieve transcoding, some DV3000 dongles are attached to the ambed server.

This setup is a bit more advanced/customized, since I have services running on separate servers. Also, we're talking more along the lines of xlxd now, which is out of scope for the DVSwitch group.

Steve KC1AWV


On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 4:04 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
OK Steve,
now all the connections seems to work, but, no audio pass from dstar to dmr .... the transmission is MUTE. Maybe I need some AMBE codec to install ?

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 19:58 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
The connection between MMDVM_Bridge to DMRGateway here is like this:

---
MMDVM_Bridge.ini

[DMR Network]
Enable=1
Address=127.0.0.1
Port=62031
Jitter=360
Local=62032
Password=passw0rd
Slot1=1
Slot2=1
Debug=0

---
DMRGateway.ini

[General]
Timeout=10
# RFTimeout=10
# NetTimeout=7
RptAddress=127.0.0.1
RptPort=62032
LocalAddress=127.0.0.1
LocalPort=62031
RuleTrace=0
Daemon=0
Debug=0

I assume you're running both programs on the same machine, so all addresses will be loopback.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 1:49 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Thank's Steve,
XLX connection is ok now. Can you give me an example how to "Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway" ?

tnx

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 19:03 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
If you are connecting to XLX, I used DMRGateway as well as MMDVM_Bridge. In DMRGateway.ini, you can set the XLX Network stanza similar to this:

[XLX Network]
Enabled=1
File=/var/lib/mmdvm/XLXHosts.txt
Port=62030
Password=passw0rd
ReloadTime=60
Slot=2
TG=6
Base=64000
Startup=740
Relink=60
Debug=0
Id=
UserControl=1
Module=B

Of course, use your own DMR ID on the Id= line. Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:57 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Hi,
I want to bridge DMR to an XLX module, I understand that I can use the DVSwitch tools and MMDVM_Bridge. I have to create 2 instances of MMDVM_Bridge but I don't understand how connect to a specific module of XLX one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.
Anyone ca help me to better understand?
thank's

73 de IT9CDU



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: P25 Reflector

Mike, KI0IK
 

KV4S

I setup a P25Reflector-Dashboard the other day.  I installed the YSFReflector-Dashboard and then updated the install with the files on N4IRS's P25Reflector-Dashbord repo.  I've been running it for a couple days.  Seems to be working fine.  Feel free to contact me off the list if you're having specific issues. 


Re: DMR vs DSTAR

Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...>
 

OK Steve,
now all the connections seems to work, but, no audio pass from dstar to dmr .... the transmission is MUTE. Maybe I need some AMBE codec to install ?


Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 19:58 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
The connection between MMDVM_Bridge to DMRGateway here is like this:

---
MMDVM_Bridge.ini

[DMR Network]
Enable=1
Address=127.0.0.1
Port=62031
Jitter=360
Local=62032
Password=passw0rd
Slot1=1
Slot2=1
Debug=0

---
DMRGateway.ini

[General]
Timeout=10
# RFTimeout=10
# NetTimeout=7
RptAddress=127.0.0.1
RptPort=62032
LocalAddress=127.0.0.1
LocalPort=62031
RuleTrace=0
Daemon=0
Debug=0

I assume you're running both programs on the same machine, so all addresses will be loopback.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 1:49 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Thank's Steve,
XLX connection is ok now. Can you give me an example how to "Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway" ?

tnx

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 19:03 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
If you are connecting to XLX, I used DMRGateway as well as MMDVM_Bridge. In DMRGateway.ini, you can set the XLX Network stanza similar to this:

[XLX Network]
Enabled=1
File=/var/lib/mmdvm/XLXHosts.txt
Port=62030
Password=passw0rd
ReloadTime=60
Slot=2
TG=6
Base=64000
Startup=740
Relink=60
Debug=0
Id=
UserControl=1
Module=B

Of course, use your own DMR ID on the Id= line. Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:57 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Hi,
I want to bridge DMR to an XLX module, I understand that I can use the DVSwitch tools and MMDVM_Bridge. I have to create 2 instances of MMDVM_Bridge but I don't understand how connect to a specific module of XLX one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.
Anyone ca help me to better understand?
thank's

73 de IT9CDU



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: ASL to XLX in DSTAR mode ?

Santu OTTAVI (TK1BI)
 

Hi Ken,

Le 13/01/2019 à 17:59, Ken KE2N via Groups.Io a écrit :
We do that for XLX725, for example - it seems to be pretty reliable, at least with the services we use....    

Are you using the following setup for linking ASL with XLX using D-Star ?
Asterisk <-> chan_USRP <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> ircddbgatewayd <-> XLX

Tht's what I'm trying to do, with hardware AMBE encoder (AMBEServer on rPi with a ThumbDV), but it seems I'm still missing something :

When talking in D-Star on XLX, I can see on MMDVM_Bridge :
M: 2019-01-14 19:48:02.113 D-Star, received network header from TK1BI   /X755 to CQCQCQ   via XRF755 K
D: 2019-01-14 19:48:02.716 D-Star, lost audio for 300ms filling in, elapsed: 603ms, expected: 30, received: 0
D: 2019-01-14 19:48:03.023 D-Star, lost audio for 300ms filling in, elapsed: 910ms, expected: 45, received: 28
D: 2019-01-14 19:48:03.324 D-Star, lost audio for 300ms filling in, elapsed: 1211ms, expected: 60, received: 43
M: 2019-01-14 19:48:03.616 D-Star, network watchdog has expired, 1.2 seconds,  98% packet loss, BER: 0.0%

And when talking on the analog side, lots of
D: 2019-01-14 19:55:21.379 D-Star Network Data Sent
D: 2019-01-14 19:55:21.379 0000:  44 53 52 50 21 18 70 01 00 0E 46 12 2B 23 06 7C    *DSRP!.p...F.+#.|*
D: 2019-01-14 19:55:21.379 0010:  60 F8 16 29 F5  
but no voice at all, and gateway callsign not heard on the XLX side.

In both cases, ircddbgateway does not seem to be much verbose. I didn't manage to get anything in the log after that :
M: 2019-01-14 20:02:06: DCS link to DCS755 K established
M: 2019-01-14 20:02:06: Starting the Callsign Server thread
--
As most of the setups seem to be using DMR, and as my XLX has AMBE transcoding, I may have a try in DMR mode (with DMRGateway instead of ircddbgateway). But before doing that, I'd like to know if the D-Star setup described above works.

Thank you in advance. 73 de TK1BI



Re: DMR vs DSTAR

Steve KC1AWV
 

The connection between MMDVM_Bridge to DMRGateway here is like this:

---
MMDVM_Bridge.ini

[DMR Network]
Enable=1
Address=127.0.0.1
Port=62031
Jitter=360
Local=62032
Password=passw0rd
Slot1=1
Slot2=1
Debug=0

---
DMRGateway.ini

[General]
Timeout=10
# RFTimeout=10
# NetTimeout=7
RptAddress=127.0.0.1
RptPort=62032
LocalAddress=127.0.0.1
LocalPort=62031
RuleTrace=0
Daemon=0
Debug=0

I assume you're running both programs on the same machine, so all addresses will be loopback.

Steve KC1AWV


On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 1:49 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Thank's Steve,
XLX connection is ok now. Can you give me an example how to "Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway" ?

tnx

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 19:03 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
If you are connecting to XLX, I used DMRGateway as well as MMDVM_Bridge. In DMRGateway.ini, you can set the XLX Network stanza similar to this:

[XLX Network]
Enabled=1
File=/var/lib/mmdvm/XLXHosts.txt
Port=62030
Password=passw0rd
ReloadTime=60
Slot=2
TG=6
Base=64000
Startup=740
Relink=60
Debug=0
Id=
UserControl=1
Module=B

Of course, use your own DMR ID on the Id= line. Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:57 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Hi,
I want to bridge DMR to an XLX module, I understand that I can use the DVSwitch tools and MMDVM_Bridge. I have to create 2 instances of MMDVM_Bridge but I don't understand how connect to a specific module of XLX one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.
Anyone ca help me to better understand?
thank's

73 de IT9CDU



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: DMR vs DSTAR

Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...>
 

Thank's Steve,
XLX connection is ok now. Can you give me an example how to "Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway" ?

tnx

Il giorno lun 14 gen 2019 alle ore 19:03 Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> ha scritto:
If you are connecting to XLX, I used DMRGateway as well as MMDVM_Bridge. In DMRGateway.ini, you can set the XLX Network stanza similar to this:

[XLX Network]
Enabled=1
File=/var/lib/mmdvm/XLXHosts.txt
Port=62030
Password=passw0rd
ReloadTime=60
Slot=2
TG=6
Base=64000
Startup=740
Relink=60
Debug=0
Id=
UserControl=1
Module=B

Of course, use your own DMR ID on the Id= line. Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway.

Steve KC1AWV

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:57 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Hi,
I want to bridge DMR to an XLX module, I understand that I can use the DVSwitch tools and MMDVM_Bridge. I have to create 2 instances of MMDVM_Bridge but I don't understand how connect to a specific module of XLX one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.
Anyone ca help me to better understand?
thank's

73 de IT9CDU



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: DMR vs DSTAR

Steve KC1AWV
 

Sorry, I forgot to mention that also set the Startup line for the XLX Reflector you are connecting to, In my case I want to connect to XLX740, so it's set to Startup=740. Then, simply change the module line to the module you want to connect to.


Re: DMR vs DSTAR

Steve KC1AWV
 

If you are connecting to XLX, I used DMRGateway as well as MMDVM_Bridge. In DMRGateway.ini, you can set the XLX Network stanza similar to this:

[XLX Network]
Enabled=1
File=/var/lib/mmdvm/XLXHosts.txt
Port=62030
Password=passw0rd
ReloadTime=60
Slot=2
TG=6
Base=64000
Startup=740
Relink=60
Debug=0
Id=
UserControl=1
Module=B

Of course, use your own DMR ID on the Id= line. Set MMDVM_Bridge to send its audio to DMRGateway.

Steve KC1AWV


On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:57 PM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Hi,
I want to bridge DMR to an XLX module, I understand that I can use the DVSwitch tools and MMDVM_Bridge. I have to create 2 instances of MMDVM_Bridge but I don't understand how connect to a specific module of XLX one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.
Anyone ca help me to better understand?
thank's

73 de IT9CDU



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: DMR vs DSTAR

JJ Cummings
 

Please see my reply in the HBLink section of DVSwitch


On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 10:57 AM Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...> wrote:
Hi,
I want to bridge DMR to an XLX module, I understand that I can use the DVSwitch tools and MMDVM_Bridge. I have to create 2 instances of MMDVM_Bridge but I don't understand how connect to a specific module of XLX one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.
Anyone ca help me to better understand?
thank's

73 de IT9CDU


DMR vs DSTAR

Vincenzo Salamone <it9cdu@...>
 

Hi,
I want to bridge DMR to an XLX module, I understand that I can use the DVSwitch tools and MMDVM_Bridge. I have to create 2 instances of MMDVM_Bridge but I don't understand how connect to a specific module of XLX one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.
Anyone ca help me to better understand?
thank's

73 de IT9CDU


Re: ASL to DSTAR Documentation? #best_practices

Ken KE2N
 

I recall reading that the DSTAR emulation is not very good and use of hardware is recommended in the case of DSTAR.  You can still run your bridge in the cloud, but you will need some hardware running the AMBE daemon with one of the dongle type devices. We do that for XLX725, for example - it seems to be pretty reliable, at least with the services we use....    


ASL to DSTAR Documentation? #best_practices

ng1pbill@...
 

I am new to the group. I have searched high and low and have not been able to find any good setup documents to setup a bridge from ASL to DSTAR. Looking at the posts I see this can all be done now with MMDVM_Bridge and Audio_Bridge.

Today I have setup a ASL to DMR bridge on a raspberryPI and that is working great. I followed this documentation to get that working:
https://kv4s.com/2018/05/23/hosting-an-allstar-node-and-an-allstardmr-bridge-in-the-cloud/

 I would also like to setup a ASL to DSTAR bridge on the same raspberryPI and have it assigned to a second ASL node number. Any documentation on how to do this?

Thank you!

Bill NG1P
Hamshack Hotline 4600
Allstar 49581, 49647 and 49788 (BM TG3167)


Re: P25 Reflector

 

I couldn't figure out how to set up a dashboard for a P25 reflector I made?


On Sat, Jan 12, 2019, 1:36 PM Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH <kc8qch@... wrote:

OH I get it. When you transmit the TG into the system the P25hosts file tells the gateway were to send it on the network and that “receiving” gateway is what then handles the data on that end….DOH! Sorry…sometimes I need to be hit in the head with a rock. Thanks for being patient with me….

 

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

E-mail: kc8qch@...

Hamshack Hotline: 4218

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

E-mail: hamcoarpsc@...

Phone: 513-452-6480

 

Allstar 47374 Administrator

World Wide Amateur Radio Guild

http://www.theguildglobal.org

E-Mail: kc8qch@...

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve N4IRS
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 14:24
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] P25 Reflector

 

it works exactly the same way.
When P25Gateway receives traffic from MMDVMHost it sends the traffic to the IP (or FQDN) and port defined in the gateway host file.

On 1/12/19 2:20 PM, Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH wrote:

Steve,

 

Ah ok that makes sense. I see what you are saying there. Then maybe I com confused on how the P25 Reflector system Works. One of the other groups I am with has t a talkgroup setup on P25 and has the reflector setup. How are things being directed to that reflector?

 

  Jeff

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

E-mail: kc8qch@...

Hamshack Hotline: 4218

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

E-mail: hamcoarpsc@...

Phone: 513-452-6480

 

Allstar 47374 Administrator

World Wide Amateur Radio Guild

http://www.theguildglobal.org

E-Mail: kc8qch@...

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve N4IRS
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 09:30
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] P25 Reflector

 

Jeff,
OK. Here is what I think you are looking for. The Reflector does not have anything to do with the TG number. It simply reflects any data sent to it by P25Gateway on the UDP port number.
This is from P25Hosts.txt used by the gateway:

# North America, 1020x
10200 dvswitch.org  41000
10201 dvswitch.org  41010

When P25Gateway receives traffic from MMDVMHost (for a HS or MMDVM Reepater) or from MMDVM_Bridge (Quantar or bridge) it sends the traffic to the IP (or FQDN) and port defined in the file.
If you sent TG 12345 to dvswitch.org on port number 41000 it would reflect that TG to every other Gateway connected.

Hope this helps.
Steve N4IRS
 


On 1/12/19 9:21 AM, Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH wrote:

Hi Steve,

 

I’m trying to install from scratch. I cloned the github code and kind of followed the same steps as YSF Reflector and compiled the code and it seems to run. But I am still trying to figure out how to set the talkgroup (I want to use a unique one) and connect it to MMDVM Brdige eventually but I want to get the reflector working first and then go there. I’ve tried also installing P25 Relfector dashboard and it doesn’t show what I expect even after modifying the config.php file so that makes me think that the reflecotor is not working right.

 

Jeff

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

E-mail: kc8qch@...

Hamshack Hotline: 4218

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

E-mail: hamcoarpsc@...

Phone: 513-452-6480

 

Allstar 47374 Administrator

World Wide Amateur Radio Guild

http://www.theguildglobal.org

E-Mail: kc8qch@...

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve N4IRS
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 07:03
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] P25 Reflector

 

Jeff,
Are you looking for information on configuring a P25Reflector or are you trying to install from scratch?
You can compile the code from github or install by apt-get. What OS are you planning to install on?

Steve N4IRS

On 1/12/19 12:31 AM, Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH wrote:

Hi All,

   I might just be brain dead and I may not be posting this to the right group and can’t find what I am looking for, but does anyone know of a good walkthrough for setting up a P25 reflector?

 

   Thanks,

     Jeff

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

E-mail: kc8qch@...

Hamshack Hotline: 4218

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

E-mail: hamcoarpsc@...

Phone: 513-452-6480

 

Allstar 47374 Administrator

World Wide Amateur Radio Guild

http://www.theguildglobal.org

E-Mail: kc8qch@...

 

 

 

 


Re: P25 Reflector

Jeff Lehman, N8ACL
 

OH I get it. When you transmit the TG into the system the P25hosts file tells the gateway were to send it on the network and that “receiving” gateway is what then handles the data on that end….DOH! Sorry…sometimes I need to be hit in the head with a rock. Thanks for being patient with me….

 

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

E-mail: kc8qch@...

Hamshack Hotline: 4218

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

E-mail: hamcoarpsc@...

Phone: 513-452-6480

 

Allstar 47374 Administrator

World Wide Amateur Radio Guild

http://www.theguildglobal.org

E-Mail: kc8qch@...

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve N4IRS
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 14:24
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] P25 Reflector

 

it works exactly the same way.
When P25Gateway receives traffic from MMDVMHost it sends the traffic to the IP (or FQDN) and port defined in the gateway host file.

On 1/12/19 2:20 PM, Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH wrote:

Steve,

 

Ah ok that makes sense. I see what you are saying there. Then maybe I com confused on how the P25 Reflector system Works. One of the other groups I am with has t a talkgroup setup on P25 and has the reflector setup. How are things being directed to that reflector?

 

  Jeff

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

E-mail: kc8qch@...

Hamshack Hotline: 4218

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

E-mail: hamcoarpsc@...

Phone: 513-452-6480

 

Allstar 47374 Administrator

World Wide Amateur Radio Guild

http://www.theguildglobal.org

E-Mail: kc8qch@...

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve N4IRS
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 09:30
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] P25 Reflector

 

Jeff,
OK. Here is what I think you are looking for. The Reflector does not have anything to do with the TG number. It simply reflects any data sent to it by P25Gateway on the UDP port number.
This is from P25Hosts.txt used by the gateway:

# North America, 1020x
10200 dvswitch.org  41000
10201 dvswitch.org  41010

When P25Gateway receives traffic from MMDVMHost (for a HS or MMDVM Reepater) or from MMDVM_Bridge (Quantar or bridge) it sends the traffic to the IP (or FQDN) and port defined in the file.
If you sent TG 12345 to dvswitch.org on port number 41000 it would reflect that TG to every other Gateway connected.

Hope this helps.
Steve N4IRS
 


On 1/12/19 9:21 AM, Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH wrote:

Hi Steve,

 

I’m trying to install from scratch. I cloned the github code and kind of followed the same steps as YSF Reflector and compiled the code and it seems to run. But I am still trying to figure out how to set the talkgroup (I want to use a unique one) and connect it to MMDVM Brdige eventually but I want to get the reflector working first and then go there. I’ve tried also installing P25 Relfector dashboard and it doesn’t show what I expect even after modifying the config.php file so that makes me think that the reflecotor is not working right.

 

Jeff

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

E-mail: kc8qch@...

Hamshack Hotline: 4218

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

E-mail: hamcoarpsc@...

Phone: 513-452-6480

 

Allstar 47374 Administrator

World Wide Amateur Radio Guild

http://www.theguildglobal.org

E-Mail: kc8qch@...

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve N4IRS
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 07:03
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] P25 Reflector

 

Jeff,
Are you looking for information on configuring a P25Reflector or are you trying to install from scratch?
You can compile the code from github or install by apt-get. What OS are you planning to install on?

Steve N4IRS

On 1/12/19 12:31 AM, Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH wrote:

Hi All,

   I might just be brain dead and I may not be posting this to the right group and can’t find what I am looking for, but does anyone know of a good walkthrough for setting up a P25 reflector?

 

   Thanks,

     Jeff

 

Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH

E-mail: kc8qch@...

Hamshack Hotline: 4218

 

Webmaster

Hamilton County ARPSC

http://www.hamcoarpsc.org

E-mail: hamcoarpsc@...

Phone: 513-452-6480

 

Allstar 47374 Administrator

World Wide Amateur Radio Guild

http://www.theguildglobal.org

E-Mail: kc8qch@...

 

 

 

 

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