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Re: Help linking P25 to DMR

Steve N4IRS
 

Mike is correct. Analog_Bridge_DMR communicates with DVSwitch.ini DMR Stanza
Analog_Bridge_P25 communicates with DVSwitch.ini P25 Stanza
You can not use the same ports.
I suggest you use the default values in DVswitch.ini and match the instance of Analog_Bridge to match it.

Also,
In Analog_Bridge_DMR.ini you can not leave the gatewaydmrid and repeaterID to 0. Set them to real values.

Steve


On 1/15/19 6:29 PM, Michael KD5DFB wrote:
looks like you are using the same ports on DMR and P25. they have to be unique.


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 5:24 PM <mike@...> wrote:

Here's what I have. 
I'm guessing i need two copies of the DVSwitch.ini based on your request. I have unique executables and bridge.ini files for P25 and DMR, but not DVSwitch.ini's... 'D'oh. 

Analog_Bridge_DMR
[AMBE_AUDIO]
server = 127.0.0.1
fromDMRPort = 31100
toDMRPort = 31103
ambeMode = DMR
minTxTimeMS = 2000
gatewayDmrId = 0
repeaterID = 0
txTg = 31079 
txTs = 0
colorCode = 1

DVSwitch.ini DMR Stanza
[DMR]
Address = 127.0.0.1
TXPort = 31100
RXPort = 31103
Slot = 2

Analog_Bridge_P25.ini
[AMBE_AUDIO]
server = 127.0.0.1
fromDMRPort = 31103
toDMRPort = 31100
ambeMode = P25
minTxTimeMS = 2000
gatewayDmrId = 0
repeaterID = 0
txTg = 927
txTs = 0
colorCode = 1

DVSwitch.ini P25 Stanza
[P25]
Address = 127.0.0.1
TXPort = 31103
RXPort = 31100
Slot = 2


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 3:06 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
On the DMR side, show me the DVSwitch.ini [DMR] stanza
On the DMR side, show me the Analog_Bridge.ini [AMBE_AUDIO] stanza

On the P25 side, show me the DVSwitch.ini [P25] stanza
On the P25 side, show me the Analog_Bridge.ini [AMBE_AUDIO] stanza

Just those 4 stanzas (for now)

Steve

On 1/15/19 5:58 PM, mike@... wrote:
That is correct - but only one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.

73, Mike - N6MIK

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:51 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address?
You have 2 instances of Analog_Bridge. One is configured for DMR (that is connected to the MMDVM_Bridge connecting to BM) and one is configured for P25 (That is connected to MMDVM_Bridge configured for P24)
Is this correct?

Steve


On 1/15/19 5:43 PM, mike@... wrote:
I think I've got everything running but could use some clarification on two things: 

I see P25 and DMR traffic in the MMDVM_bridge log, and the P25Gateway is connected to the reflector, however I'm not getting any cross-connections. 

- Do the P25 and DMR talkgroups need to match? In my current config, they do not. Could this be a factor? 

- I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address? 

Thanks! 
Mike - N6MIK



On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:13 PM <mike@...> wrote:
Thanks Steve. I'll grab those components and start experimenting! 

I have an existing P25Reflector that connects a couple of MMDVM repeaters (primarily P25 users) and wish to bridge a talk group with one on Brandmeister.

I'm going to try this on a R-pi 3b+; do you think that's going to be robust enough to run everything? 

73,
Mike - N6MIK

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:58 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Mike,
Yes you will need those things also. here is a basic diagram:
P25Reflector <-> P25Gateway <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> DMR Master (BM, HB etc)
You will need 2 instances of Analog_Bridge
The 2 MMDVM_Bridges can be done as one instance.

The question is, what exactly are you trying to bridge? That will tell us more about the ends of the bridge.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 1/14/19 10:51 PM, mike@... wrote:
Hey all, 

I'm brand new to the group, but have been experimenting with DMR and P25 for a while. I am looking to build a bridge between P25 and DMR, and have found just enough to confuse me on the 'web. :) 

It looks like I'll need MMDVM_Bridge for sure - but I am unclear what other components I need. I have also seen a post (possibly outdated) that talks about needing gateways, reflectors and a couple of analog bridges... but something is telling me that may not be the case. 

Am I on the right track? Any pointers are appreciated!

Thanks and 73, 
Mike - N6MIK





Re: Help linking P25 to DMR

Michael KD5DFB
 

looks like you are using the same ports on DMR and P25. they have to be unique.


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 5:24 PM <mike@...> wrote:

Here's what I have. 
I'm guessing i need two copies of the DVSwitch.ini based on your request. I have unique executables and bridge.ini files for P25 and DMR, but not DVSwitch.ini's... 'D'oh. 

Analog_Bridge_DMR
[AMBE_AUDIO]
server = 127.0.0.1
fromDMRPort = 31100
toDMRPort = 31103
ambeMode = DMR
minTxTimeMS = 2000
gatewayDmrId = 0
repeaterID = 0
txTg = 31079 
txTs = 0
colorCode = 1

DVSwitch.ini DMR Stanza
[DMR]
Address = 127.0.0.1
TXPort = 31100
RXPort = 31103
Slot = 2

Analog_Bridge_P25.ini
[AMBE_AUDIO]
server = 127.0.0.1
fromDMRPort = 31103
toDMRPort = 31100
ambeMode = P25
minTxTimeMS = 2000
gatewayDmrId = 0
repeaterID = 0
txTg = 927
txTs = 0
colorCode = 1

DVSwitch.ini P25 Stanza
[P25]
Address = 127.0.0.1
TXPort = 31103
RXPort = 31100
Slot = 2


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 3:06 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
On the DMR side, show me the DVSwitch.ini [DMR] stanza
On the DMR side, show me the Analog_Bridge.ini [AMBE_AUDIO] stanza

On the P25 side, show me the DVSwitch.ini [P25] stanza
On the P25 side, show me the Analog_Bridge.ini [AMBE_AUDIO] stanza

Just those 4 stanzas (for now)

Steve

On 1/15/19 5:58 PM, mike@... wrote:
That is correct - but only one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.

73, Mike - N6MIK

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:51 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address?
You have 2 instances of Analog_Bridge. One is configured for DMR (that is connected to the MMDVM_Bridge connecting to BM) and one is configured for P25 (That is connected to MMDVM_Bridge configured for P24)
Is this correct?

Steve


On 1/15/19 5:43 PM, mike@... wrote:
I think I've got everything running but could use some clarification on two things: 

I see P25 and DMR traffic in the MMDVM_bridge log, and the P25Gateway is connected to the reflector, however I'm not getting any cross-connections. 

- Do the P25 and DMR talkgroups need to match? In my current config, they do not. Could this be a factor? 

- I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address? 

Thanks! 
Mike - N6MIK



On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:13 PM <mike@...> wrote:
Thanks Steve. I'll grab those components and start experimenting! 

I have an existing P25Reflector that connects a couple of MMDVM repeaters (primarily P25 users) and wish to bridge a talk group with one on Brandmeister.

I'm going to try this on a R-pi 3b+; do you think that's going to be robust enough to run everything? 

73,
Mike - N6MIK

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:58 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Mike,
Yes you will need those things also. here is a basic diagram:
P25Reflector <-> P25Gateway <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> DMR Master (BM, HB etc)
You will need 2 instances of Analog_Bridge
The 2 MMDVM_Bridges can be done as one instance.

The question is, what exactly are you trying to bridge? That will tell us more about the ends of the bridge.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 1/14/19 10:51 PM, mike@... wrote:
Hey all, 

I'm brand new to the group, but have been experimenting with DMR and P25 for a while. I am looking to build a bridge between P25 and DMR, and have found just enough to confuse me on the 'web. :) 

It looks like I'll need MMDVM_Bridge for sure - but I am unclear what other components I need. I have also seen a post (possibly outdated) that talks about needing gateways, reflectors and a couple of analog bridges... but something is telling me that may not be the case. 

Am I on the right track? Any pointers are appreciated!

Thanks and 73, 
Mike - N6MIK




Re: Help linking P25 to DMR

Steve N4IRS
 

No, I worded it wrong. it's a single MMDVM_Bridge.ini and a single DVSwitch.ini

On 1/15/19 6:24 PM, mike@... wrote:

Here's what I have. 
I'm guessing i need two copies of the DVSwitch.ini based on your request. I have unique executables and bridge.ini files for P25 and DMR, but not DVSwitch.ini's... 'D'oh. 

Analog_Bridge_DMR
[AMBE_AUDIO]
server = 127.0.0.1
fromDMRPort = 31100
toDMRPort = 31103
ambeMode = DMR
minTxTimeMS = 2000
gatewayDmrId = 0
repeaterID = 0
txTg = 31079 
txTs = 0
colorCode = 1

DVSwitch.ini DMR Stanza
[DMR]
Address = 127.0.0.1
TXPort = 31100
RXPort = 31103
Slot = 2

Analog_Bridge_P25.ini
[AMBE_AUDIO]
server = 127.0.0.1
fromDMRPort = 31103
toDMRPort = 31100
ambeMode = P25
minTxTimeMS = 2000
gatewayDmrId = 0
repeaterID = 0
txTg = 927
txTs = 0
colorCode = 1

DVSwitch.ini P25 Stanza
[P25]
Address = 127.0.0.1
TXPort = 31103
RXPort = 31100
Slot = 2


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 3:06 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
On the DMR side, show me the DVSwitch.ini [DMR] stanza
On the DMR side, show me the Analog_Bridge.ini [AMBE_AUDIO] stanza

On the P25 side, show me the DVSwitch.ini [P25] stanza
On the P25 side, show me the Analog_Bridge.ini [AMBE_AUDIO] stanza

Just those 4 stanzas (for now)

Steve

On 1/15/19 5:58 PM, mike@... wrote:
That is correct - but only one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.

73, Mike - N6MIK

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:51 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address?
You have 2 instances of Analog_Bridge. One is configured for DMR (that is connected to the MMDVM_Bridge connecting to BM) and one is configured for P25 (That is connected to MMDVM_Bridge configured for P24)
Is this correct?

Steve


On 1/15/19 5:43 PM, mike@... wrote:
I think I've got everything running but could use some clarification on two things: 

I see P25 and DMR traffic in the MMDVM_bridge log, and the P25Gateway is connected to the reflector, however I'm not getting any cross-connections. 

- Do the P25 and DMR talkgroups need to match? In my current config, they do not. Could this be a factor? 

- I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address? 

Thanks! 
Mike - N6MIK



On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:13 PM <mike@...> wrote:
Thanks Steve. I'll grab those components and start experimenting! 

I have an existing P25Reflector that connects a couple of MMDVM repeaters (primarily P25 users) and wish to bridge a talk group with one on Brandmeister.

I'm going to try this on a R-pi 3b+; do you think that's going to be robust enough to run everything? 

73,
Mike - N6MIK

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:58 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Mike,
Yes you will need those things also. here is a basic diagram:
P25Reflector <-> P25Gateway <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> DMR Master (BM, HB etc)
You will need 2 instances of Analog_Bridge
The 2 MMDVM_Bridges can be done as one instance.

The question is, what exactly are you trying to bridge? That will tell us more about the ends of the bridge.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 1/14/19 10:51 PM, mike@... wrote:
Hey all, 

I'm brand new to the group, but have been experimenting with DMR and P25 for a while. I am looking to build a bridge between P25 and DMR, and have found just enough to confuse me on the 'web. :) 

It looks like I'll need MMDVM_Bridge for sure - but I am unclear what other components I need. I have also seen a post (possibly outdated) that talks about needing gateways, reflectors and a couple of analog bridges... but something is telling me that may not be the case. 

Am I on the right track? Any pointers are appreciated!

Thanks and 73, 
Mike - N6MIK





Re: Help linking P25 to DMR

mike@...
 


Here's what I have. 
I'm guessing i need two copies of the DVSwitch.ini based on your request. I have unique executables and bridge.ini files for P25 and DMR, but not DVSwitch.ini's... 'D'oh. 

Analog_Bridge_DMR
[AMBE_AUDIO]
server = 127.0.0.1
fromDMRPort = 31100
toDMRPort = 31103
ambeMode = DMR
minTxTimeMS = 2000
gatewayDmrId = 0
repeaterID = 0
txTg = 31079 
txTs = 0
colorCode = 1

DVSwitch.ini DMR Stanza
[DMR]
Address = 127.0.0.1
TXPort = 31100
RXPort = 31103
Slot = 2

Analog_Bridge_P25.ini
[AMBE_AUDIO]
server = 127.0.0.1
fromDMRPort = 31103
toDMRPort = 31100
ambeMode = P25
minTxTimeMS = 2000
gatewayDmrId = 0
repeaterID = 0
txTg = 927
txTs = 0
colorCode = 1

DVSwitch.ini P25 Stanza
[P25]
Address = 127.0.0.1
TXPort = 31103
RXPort = 31100
Slot = 2


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 3:06 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
On the DMR side, show me the DVSwitch.ini [DMR] stanza
On the DMR side, show me the Analog_Bridge.ini [AMBE_AUDIO] stanza

On the P25 side, show me the DVSwitch.ini [P25] stanza
On the P25 side, show me the Analog_Bridge.ini [AMBE_AUDIO] stanza

Just those 4 stanzas (for now)

Steve

On 1/15/19 5:58 PM, mike@... wrote:
That is correct - but only one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.

73, Mike - N6MIK

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:51 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address?
You have 2 instances of Analog_Bridge. One is configured for DMR (that is connected to the MMDVM_Bridge connecting to BM) and one is configured for P25 (That is connected to MMDVM_Bridge configured for P24)
Is this correct?

Steve


On 1/15/19 5:43 PM, mike@... wrote:
I think I've got everything running but could use some clarification on two things: 

I see P25 and DMR traffic in the MMDVM_bridge log, and the P25Gateway is connected to the reflector, however I'm not getting any cross-connections. 

- Do the P25 and DMR talkgroups need to match? In my current config, they do not. Could this be a factor? 

- I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address? 

Thanks! 
Mike - N6MIK



On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:13 PM <mike@...> wrote:
Thanks Steve. I'll grab those components and start experimenting! 

I have an existing P25Reflector that connects a couple of MMDVM repeaters (primarily P25 users) and wish to bridge a talk group with one on Brandmeister.

I'm going to try this on a R-pi 3b+; do you think that's going to be robust enough to run everything? 

73,
Mike - N6MIK

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:58 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Mike,
Yes you will need those things also. here is a basic diagram:
P25Reflector <-> P25Gateway <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> DMR Master (BM, HB etc)
You will need 2 instances of Analog_Bridge
The 2 MMDVM_Bridges can be done as one instance.

The question is, what exactly are you trying to bridge? That will tell us more about the ends of the bridge.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 1/14/19 10:51 PM, mike@... wrote:
Hey all, 

I'm brand new to the group, but have been experimenting with DMR and P25 for a while. I am looking to build a bridge between P25 and DMR, and have found just enough to confuse me on the 'web. :) 

It looks like I'll need MMDVM_Bridge for sure - but I am unclear what other components I need. I have also seen a post (possibly outdated) that talks about needing gateways, reflectors and a couple of analog bridges... but something is telling me that may not be the case. 

Am I on the right track? Any pointers are appreciated!

Thanks and 73, 
Mike - N6MIK




Re: Help linking P25 to DMR

Steve N4IRS
 

On the DMR side, show me the DVSwitch.ini [DMR] stanza
On the DMR side, show me the Analog_Bridge.ini [AMBE_AUDIO] stanza

On the P25 side, show me the DVSwitch.ini [P25] stanza
On the P25 side, show me the Analog_Bridge.ini [AMBE_AUDIO] stanza

Just those 4 stanzas (for now)

Steve

On 1/15/19 5:58 PM, mike@... wrote:
That is correct - but only one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.

73, Mike - N6MIK

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:51 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address?
You have 2 instances of Analog_Bridge. One is configured for DMR (that is connected to the MMDVM_Bridge connecting to BM) and one is configured for P25 (That is connected to MMDVM_Bridge configured for P24)
Is this correct?

Steve


On 1/15/19 5:43 PM, mike@... wrote:
I think I've got everything running but could use some clarification on two things: 

I see P25 and DMR traffic in the MMDVM_bridge log, and the P25Gateway is connected to the reflector, however I'm not getting any cross-connections. 

- Do the P25 and DMR talkgroups need to match? In my current config, they do not. Could this be a factor? 

- I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address? 

Thanks! 
Mike - N6MIK



On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:13 PM <mike@...> wrote:
Thanks Steve. I'll grab those components and start experimenting! 

I have an existing P25Reflector that connects a couple of MMDVM repeaters (primarily P25 users) and wish to bridge a talk group with one on Brandmeister.

I'm going to try this on a R-pi 3b+; do you think that's going to be robust enough to run everything? 

73,
Mike - N6MIK

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:58 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Mike,
Yes you will need those things also. here is a basic diagram:
P25Reflector <-> P25Gateway <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> DMR Master (BM, HB etc)
You will need 2 instances of Analog_Bridge
The 2 MMDVM_Bridges can be done as one instance.

The question is, what exactly are you trying to bridge? That will tell us more about the ends of the bridge.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 1/14/19 10:51 PM, mike@... wrote:
Hey all, 

I'm brand new to the group, but have been experimenting with DMR and P25 for a while. I am looking to build a bridge between P25 and DMR, and have found just enough to confuse me on the 'web. :) 

It looks like I'll need MMDVM_Bridge for sure - but I am unclear what other components I need. I have also seen a post (possibly outdated) that talks about needing gateways, reflectors and a couple of analog bridges... but something is telling me that may not be the case. 

Am I on the right track? Any pointers are appreciated!

Thanks and 73, 
Mike - N6MIK




Re: Help linking P25 to DMR

mike@...
 

That is correct - but only one instance of MMDVM_Bridge.

73, Mike - N6MIK

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:51 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address?
You have 2 instances of Analog_Bridge. One is configured for DMR (that is connected to the MMDVM_Bridge connecting to BM) and one is configured for P25 (That is connected to MMDVM_Bridge configured for P24)
Is this correct?

Steve


On 1/15/19 5:43 PM, mike@... wrote:
I think I've got everything running but could use some clarification on two things: 

I see P25 and DMR traffic in the MMDVM_bridge log, and the P25Gateway is connected to the reflector, however I'm not getting any cross-connections. 

- Do the P25 and DMR talkgroups need to match? In my current config, they do not. Could this be a factor? 

- I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address? 

Thanks! 
Mike - N6MIK



On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:13 PM <mike@...> wrote:
Thanks Steve. I'll grab those components and start experimenting! 

I have an existing P25Reflector that connects a couple of MMDVM repeaters (primarily P25 users) and wish to bridge a talk group with one on Brandmeister.

I'm going to try this on a R-pi 3b+; do you think that's going to be robust enough to run everything? 

73,
Mike - N6MIK

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:58 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Mike,
Yes you will need those things also. here is a basic diagram:
P25Reflector <-> P25Gateway <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> DMR Master (BM, HB etc)
You will need 2 instances of Analog_Bridge
The 2 MMDVM_Bridges can be done as one instance.

The question is, what exactly are you trying to bridge? That will tell us more about the ends of the bridge.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 1/14/19 10:51 PM, mike@... wrote:
Hey all, 

I'm brand new to the group, but have been experimenting with DMR and P25 for a while. I am looking to build a bridge between P25 and DMR, and have found just enough to confuse me on the 'web. :) 

It looks like I'll need MMDVM_Bridge for sure - but I am unclear what other components I need. I have also seen a post (possibly outdated) that talks about needing gateways, reflectors and a couple of analog bridges... but something is telling me that may not be the case. 

Am I on the right track? Any pointers are appreciated!

Thanks and 73, 
Mike - N6MIK



Re: Help linking P25 to DMR

Steve N4IRS
 

I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address?
You have 2 instances of Analog_Bridge. One is configured for DMR (that is connected to the MMDVM_Bridge connecting to BM) and one is configured for P25 (That is connected to MMDVM_Bridge configured for P24)
Is this correct?

Steve


On 1/15/19 5:43 PM, mike@... wrote:
I think I've got everything running but could use some clarification on two things: 

I see P25 and DMR traffic in the MMDVM_bridge log, and the P25Gateway is connected to the reflector, however I'm not getting any cross-connections. 

- Do the P25 and DMR talkgroups need to match? In my current config, they do not. Could this be a factor? 

- I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address? 

Thanks! 
Mike - N6MIK



On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:13 PM <mike@...> wrote:
Thanks Steve. I'll grab those components and start experimenting! 

I have an existing P25Reflector that connects a couple of MMDVM repeaters (primarily P25 users) and wish to bridge a talk group with one on Brandmeister.

I'm going to try this on a R-pi 3b+; do you think that's going to be robust enough to run everything? 

73,
Mike - N6MIK

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:58 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Mike,
Yes you will need those things also. here is a basic diagram:
P25Reflector <-> P25Gateway <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> DMR Master (BM, HB etc)
You will need 2 instances of Analog_Bridge
The 2 MMDVM_Bridges can be done as one instance.

The question is, what exactly are you trying to bridge? That will tell us more about the ends of the bridge.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 1/14/19 10:51 PM, mike@... wrote:
Hey all, 

I'm brand new to the group, but have been experimenting with DMR and P25 for a while. I am looking to build a bridge between P25 and DMR, and have found just enough to confuse me on the 'web. :) 

It looks like I'll need MMDVM_Bridge for sure - but I am unclear what other components I need. I have also seen a post (possibly outdated) that talks about needing gateways, reflectors and a couple of analog bridges... but something is telling me that may not be the case. 

Am I on the right track? Any pointers are appreciated!

Thanks and 73, 
Mike - N6MIK



Re: Help linking P25 to DMR

mike@...
 

I think I've got everything running but could use some clarification on two things: 

I see P25 and DMR traffic in the MMDVM_bridge log, and the P25Gateway is connected to the reflector, however I'm not getting any cross-connections. 

- Do the P25 and DMR talkgroups need to match? In my current config, they do not. Could this be a factor? 

- I see a lot of this in the log: "P25, got AMBE/DSAMBE (TAG=7) and expected IMBE (change to 88 bits)" - Not sure how to address? 

Thanks! 
Mike - N6MIK



On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:13 PM <mike@...> wrote:
Thanks Steve. I'll grab those components and start experimenting! 

I have an existing P25Reflector that connects a couple of MMDVM repeaters (primarily P25 users) and wish to bridge a talk group with one on Brandmeister.

I'm going to try this on a R-pi 3b+; do you think that's going to be robust enough to run everything? 

73,
Mike - N6MIK

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:58 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Mike,
Yes you will need those things also. here is a basic diagram:
P25Reflector <-> P25Gateway <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> DMR Master (BM, HB etc)
You will need 2 instances of Analog_Bridge
The 2 MMDVM_Bridges can be done as one instance.

The question is, what exactly are you trying to bridge? That will tell us more about the ends of the bridge.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 1/14/19 10:51 PM, mike@... wrote:
Hey all, 

I'm brand new to the group, but have been experimenting with DMR and P25 for a while. I am looking to build a bridge between P25 and DMR, and have found just enough to confuse me on the 'web. :) 

It looks like I'll need MMDVM_Bridge for sure - but I am unclear what other components I need. I have also seen a post (possibly outdated) that talks about needing gateways, reflectors and a couple of analog bridges... but something is telling me that may not be the case. 

Am I on the right track? Any pointers are appreciated!

Thanks and 73, 
Mike - N6MIK


Re: Help linking P25 to DMR

JJ Cummings
 

As a point of reference I am currently transcoding the following things over to ASL on a single RPi3B+

NXDN -> md380emu -> Analog_Bridge -> ASL
C4FM -> md380emu -> Analog_Bridge -> ASL
DMRLink -> IPSC_Bridge -> HB_Bridge -> hblink3 -> DV3000 -> Analog_Bridge -> ASL

Note that each "ASL" above is a separate "node" within the same ASL instance on the RPi and that the system load is minimal (all three are active at the same time when a transmission is made).

JJC

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 3:17 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Yes it is

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From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of Kevin N9OIG <n9oig@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 4:11:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Help linking P25 to DMR
 
I want to do the same thing P25 31555 currently up and running. And 31555 DMR brandmiester. The same question is the RPI 3 plus robust enough to run this cross link?

N9OIG 
Kevin 


Re: Help linking P25 to DMR

Steve N4IRS
 

Yes it is

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From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of Kevin N9OIG <n9oig@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 4:11:42 PM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Help linking P25 to DMR
 
I want to do the same thing P25 31555 currently up and running. And 31555 DMR brandmiester. The same question is the RPI 3 plus robust enough to run this cross link?

N9OIG 
Kevin 


Re: Help linking P25 to DMR

Kevin N9OIG
 

I want to do the same thing P25 31555 currently up and running. And 31555 DMR brandmiester. The same question is the RPI 3 plus robust enough to run this cross link?

N9OIG 
Kevin 


Re: OpenBridge issue both bm&ipsc2

Themis Floros SV4QXF
 

Thanks Cort , i leave only the trunk with BM!


DMR to the Bridge Echolink conference server

bagdala@...
 

The bridge is an iLink/EchoLink compatible conference bridge and we have been using it to host our Echolink conference server. I was wondering if anyone tried using DVSwitch to link DMR and TBD ?
And if not, what would you recommend for linking DMR and Echolink only ( non allstar node )


Re: OpenBridge issue both bm&ipsc2

Cort N0MJS <n0mjs@...>
 

Yep, that’s expected and known. IPSC2 servers send one additional packet at the end of a data stream that is outside of the protocol spec defined by DMR+ and Brandmeister. It does not affect usability. To date I have had no luck finding out what it is, though Artem at Brandmeister was going to try and look into it. BM has made the protocol open to all, DMR+ considers it their IP and is not interested in publication.

+1 Brandmeister
-1 DMR+

You can ignore it. It is not causing problems.

Which brings up something in general for everyone – just because something might look “bad” to you in a log doesn’t mean something is failing. I log a LOT OF STUFF. Please assume that, unless something in practice is failing, many log messages that look ominous are not.

On Jan 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Themis Floros SV4QXF <xsystemgr@...> wrote:

Hello guys , i have a setup with hblink for mmdvm and a newer hblink with a openbridge config . The last days i try to connect to ipsc2 server and to bm server and take this message

OpenBridge HMAC failed, packet discarded - OPCODE: DMRD DATA: 'DMRD\xb50\x0c=\x00\x00[\x00\x00\x07\xe5\x04\xbe\xab|Y\xc48\x91B5kt\x15\x9e\x93\n)\xa6QR\x89P\x9cPp\x8f\x17Ol\xe8\x99\xa4\x12/\xb7e\xe6\xcd'

Thanks

Cort Buffington
785-865-7206


OpenBridge issue both bm&ipsc2

Themis Floros SV4QXF
 

Hello guys , i have a setup with hblink for mmdvm and a newer hblink with a openbridge config . The last days i try to connect to ipsc2 server and to bm server and take this message

OpenBridge HMAC failed, packet discarded - OPCODE: DMRD DATA: 'DMRD\xb50\x0c=\x00\x00[\x00\x00\x07\xe5\x04\xbe\xab|Y\xc48\x91B5kt\x15\x9e\x93\n)\xa6QR\x89P\x9cPp\x8f\x17Ol\xe8\x99\xa4\x12/\xb7e\xe6\xcd'

Thanks


Re: Is this even possible?

Jim Gifford - K9AGR
 

I've been sick the last 6 weeks or so, but I'm finally getting back on my feet.

During my convalescence, I didn't have much energy to work on this project.  But now, I'm ready to get back to it, and make this all work.

Corey, for setting up an openbridge feed from BM, should I coordinate directly with you, or should I contact the dmr-admins (at) repeater.net address?  Do I need to pre-choose the talkgroups I want fed to me via the openbridge, or is it more like the self-serve features of the normal BM console?

I already have a working feed of 8802 from K4USD that I'm happy with.  It has been rock solid, and I'd like to just keep using that feed since it's already functional.

Thank you again for all the assistance,
Jim

On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Corey Dean N3FE <n3fe@...> wrote:

Now that openbridge is released I may be able to help out some here.  I have about 15-20 talkgroups from bm 3102 feeding hblink using openbridge.  I then have a link into my cbridge carrying Delmarva 8802, then I also have a backup system of hblink with all of those coming across it.  My home brew repeaters connect directly to hblink and the 8300 repeaters use IPSec bridge / hb bridge to connect to hblink.  I have been running it this way for a few months with no trouble at all!

If I need another talkgroup from the cbridge or bm it is very easy to add.  On openbridge all I need to know is the talkgroup I’d, enter it in and you have it right away.  Think of it as a cbridge cclink with out the need for a lid.

Corey n3fe

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 8:28 PM JJ Cummings <cummingsj@...> wrote:
Jim, you can do what you want to do now with the use of HBLink, DMRLink, HB_Bridge and IPSC_Bridge as follows:

hb_confbridge <-> Brandmeister (for BM TGs)
hb_confbridge <-> hb_bridge <-> ipsc_bridge <-> confbridge (for CBridge interfacing and interfacing to motorola repeaters)

hb_confbridge is a single instance of hb_confbridge.py from HBLink
confbridge is a single instance of confbridge.py from DMRLink
ipsc_bridge and hb_bridge are the respective single instances of the .py files from IPSC_Bridge and HB_Bridge.

All that you have to do is configure the respective _rules.py files to determine what TGs are allowed to go to what system, simply excluding TG8802 from your Brandmeister stanza in said file will do it.

JJC
N0PKT

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 1:56 PM Jim Gifford - KD4PPG <jim@...> wrote:
A lot has happened in the last few weeks.  Most critically, the OpenBridge branch merged back into the master branch, bringing with it new goodies to play with, namely ACLs!

Additionally, I've stopped trying to conflate my needs with the needs of the other repeater operator, instead treating each as a unique problem to be solved.  Since his is closer to being on the air, I'm focusing on that.  I'm hoping for OpenBridge to be the answer to my own setup in the near future.

Basic premise: new (used) repeater, VHF, XPR8400, 147.210 +, CC1,  antenna at 300' on a county tower, owner: N4TIK (Ken), trustee: W0ADD (Al).

Ken and Al would prefer their repeater have the sysop level of control provided by Brandmeister rather than being on a cBridge and having to pester the bridge operator for changes.  However, they also want to carry the DelMarVa (8802) talkgroup, primarily for coordination across the region during EmComm scenarios, which is only carried on cBridges currently.

For policy reasons, 8802 will not be carried by BM.

The repeater is operational, barring some issues with the duplexer.  It's connected to BM currently, and operating as the owner and trustee wish it to, although lacking the 8802 talkgroup.

Existing configuration:

I think that with the advent of ACLs, I can insert a DVSwitch suite in between the XPR8400 and the BM3102 server.  I can use the ACLs to deny 8802 from going to BM3102, and also to permit only 8802 on TS1 going to/from K4USD.

Proposed configuration:


In this proposal, the IPSC_Bridge <-> BM3102 link would be using the N4TIK DMR ID # 310328, so would look the same as the existing repeater.

Does anyone see anything wrong with this approach?

Yes, I know BM supports HB directly, but I don't know what's involved with changing from the current IPSC connection to an HB connection, ie will BM even care? Is it a different port?  For that matter, I don't *know* that the IPSC_Bridge <->BM3102 link will function correctly.   Any advice on this point is very welcome.

Thanks in advance,
Jim

PS, hooray for ACLs!

On Nov 23, 2018, at 7:14 AM, Jim Gifford - KD4PPG <jim@...> wrote:

I've reached the point where I need someone with experience with these tools to point me in the right direction.  I think I am getting overwhelmed with too much "there's more than one way to do it" combined with not knowing the limitations of the various branches of dmrlink and hblink (IPSC_Bridge and HB_Bridge specifically).

I have the need to connect 2 repeaters up to 2 different networks simultaneously.  One repeater is Mototrbo/IPSC and the other is MMDVM/Pi-Star.  One of the networks is a cBridge, and the other is Brandmeister.

On the IPSC repeater, the requirement is to have TS1 TG8802 and TS2 TG3151 by default, with TG8802 sourced from the cBridge, and TG3151 sourced from either the cBridge or Brandmeister.  I can get it from either source, but TG8802 is only from the cBridge due to policy.  The part that makes it difficult for me to know how to implement it is that the repeater owner wants TS1 to share with "any possible" BM TG, with a PTT setup with 15 minute timeout to revert to TG8802.

On the MMDVM repeater, the requirement is to have TS1 TG8802 and TS2 TG3151 by default.  Again, TG8802 sourced from the cBridge, and TG3151 from either.  The repeater owner on this one is me, and I'd rather have my PTT groups on TS2, and I don't necessarily care if it is "any possible" BM TG or simply a predefined subset.

Eventually, we might add additional DMR repeaters into the mix, and have different requirements for them.

I've started with a pristine install of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, updated it, added Steve's DVSwitch-System-Builder script, and followed its directions.

Any suggestions for the best way to implement the system as described, or as closely as possible?

Thanks in advance,
Jim KD4PPG






Re: ASL to XLX in DSTAR mode ? Lost audio -> Solved

Santu OTTAVI (TK1BI)
 



Le 14/01/2019 à 22:39, Ken KE2N via Groups.Io a écrit :
D: 2019-01-14 19:48:03.324 D-Star, lost audio for 300ms filling in, elapsed: 1211ms, expected: 60, received: 43
M: 2019-01-14 19:48:03.616 D-Star, network watchdog has expired, 1.2 seconds,  98% packet loss, BER: 0.0%

In case anybody else encounters that "D-Star lost audio" error :
According to Murphy's Law, the cause was completely external to Analog_Bridge / MMDVM_Bridge setup :

xlx ambed daemon had a malfunction. Errors were present in XLX log. Strangely, it scrambled all XLX traffic, including traffic that did not require XLX transcoding. This also affected Analog_bridge traffic.

Restarting ambed solved that problem.


Re: ASL to XLX in DSTAR mode ? MMDVM_Bridge transmitting DMR-ID instead of callsign

Santu OTTAVI (TK1BI)
 

Hi,

Le 14/01/2019 à 22:39, Ken KE2N via Groups.Io a écrit :

My setup is probably not what you want.  The ASL link is to a DMR talk group:

Asterisk <-> chan_USRP <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> DMR TG


Thank you for your answer. Here, the XLX is the central part of the system. It has internal transcoding, and all other stuff (including Asterisk hub) will connect to it. What I'm trying to do is :
Asterisk Hub <-> chan_USRP <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> ircddbgatewayd <-> XLX
Here's the current status :
- From XLX to Asterisk : it works perfectly
- From Asterisk to XLX : <nothing>

On the XLX log, I can see packets arriving from my Asterisk node, but it's as if they are not interpreted as a connection request by XLX :
Jan 14 22:51:01 xlx xlxd: DCS packet (100) from 10.44.0.3
Looking at MMDVM_Bridge, I can see D-Star outgoing packets :
M: 2019-01-15 09:38:53.337 D-Star link status set to "Connected to DCS755 K "
M: 2019-01-15 09:39:41.514 D-Star, TX state = ON
I: 2019-01-15 09:39:41.514 D-Star, Begin TX: src=6693310 rpt=2080199 dst=6 slot=2 cc=1 metadata=208019902
D: 2019-01-15 09:39:41.514 D-Star Network Header Sent
D: 2019-01-15 09:39:41.514 0000:  44 53 52 50 20 4C CE 00 40 00 00 54 4B 35 4B 50    *DSRP L..@..TK5KP*
D: 2019-01-15 09:39:41.514 0010:  20 20 47 54 4B 35 4B 50 20 20 47 43 51 43 51 43    *  GTK5KP  GCQCQC*
D: 2019-01-15 09:39:41.514 0020:  51 20 20 32 30 38 30 31 39 39 30 44 56 53 57 E7    *Q  20801990DVSW.*
Something seems to be wrong here :
- TK5KP is the callsign of my gateway
- 2080199 is the DMR-ID of TK5KP. This field is the source caller ID. I would expect it to contain a D-Star callsign, not a CCS7 ID.

Problem :
It seems MMDVM_Bridge is sending a D-Star connection frame with a DMR-ID instead of a D-Star callsign, which makes XLX ignore it.

Additional question :
Can I use the same callsign (TK5KP) for ircddb gateway callsign, MMDVM_bridge "repeater" callsign, and source callsign (which will appear on D-Star network for data originating from Asterisk) ?

Thank you in advance for your help.

73 de TK1BI



Re: Help linking P25 to DMR

mike@...
 

Thanks Steve. I'll grab those components and start experimenting! 

I have an existing P25Reflector that connects a couple of MMDVM repeaters (primarily P25 users) and wish to bridge a talk group with one on Brandmeister.

I'm going to try this on a R-pi 3b+; do you think that's going to be robust enough to run everything? 

73,
Mike - N6MIK

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:58 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Mike,
Yes you will need those things also. here is a basic diagram:
P25Reflector <-> P25Gateway <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> DMR Master (BM, HB etc)
You will need 2 instances of Analog_Bridge
The 2 MMDVM_Bridges can be done as one instance.

The question is, what exactly are you trying to bridge? That will tell us more about the ends of the bridge.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 1/14/19 10:51 PM, mike@... wrote:
Hey all, 

I'm brand new to the group, but have been experimenting with DMR and P25 for a while. I am looking to build a bridge between P25 and DMR, and have found just enough to confuse me on the 'web. :) 

It looks like I'll need MMDVM_Bridge for sure - but I am unclear what other components I need. I have also seen a post (possibly outdated) that talks about needing gateways, reflectors and a couple of analog bridges... but something is telling me that may not be the case. 

Am I on the right track? Any pointers are appreciated!

Thanks and 73, 
Mike - N6MIK


Re: Help linking P25 to DMR

Steve N4IRS
 

Mike,
Yes you will need those things also. here is a basic diagram:
P25Reflector <-> P25Gateway <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> Analog_Bridge <-> MMDVM_Bridge <-> DMR Master (BM, HB etc)
You will need 2 instances of Analog_Bridge
The 2 MMDVM_Bridges can be done as one instance.

The question is, what exactly are you trying to bridge? That will tell us more about the ends of the bridge.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 1/14/19 10:51 PM, mike@... wrote:
Hey all, 

I'm brand new to the group, but have been experimenting with DMR and P25 for a while. I am looking to build a bridge between P25 and DMR, and have found just enough to confuse me on the 'web. :) 

It looks like I'll need MMDVM_Bridge for sure - but I am unclear what other components I need. I have also seen a post (possibly outdated) that talks about needing gateways, reflectors and a couple of analog bridges... but something is telling me that may not be the case. 

Am I on the right track? Any pointers are appreciated!

Thanks and 73, 
Mike - N6MIK

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