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Re: Hoping these config files look ok

Steven Blackford
 

Yep, it successfully logged in & is sending the RTTPPING & MSTPONG's  messages. I ran the command as /usr/bin/python /opt/hblink/HB_Bridge.py as root.  I even did a reset on the IP via the selfcare page & I watched it log back in successfully.  I have Telegram up & running if that'd be easier.  Thanks again.

Steve


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
You are running HB_Bridge.py? "python HB_Bridge.py" in the foreground. Are you seeing any traffic in either direction at the console?


On 9/25/2017 10:38 AM, Steven Blackford wrote:
Hi Steve,
     Yeah, that would help wouldn't it! Ok, I've made the adjustments & HB_Bridge successfully logs into the BM Network.  I'm not seeing any response If I key up on TG 31254 though.  I don't see any traffic.  My "Repeater ID" is my DMR ID.  Since I don't have a repeater, I made the adjustments & it's is showing up in my list of hotspots on the BM Selfcare portal.  I've assigned 31254 as a static TG on TS 2 which is how I have it setup in the software.  Does anything else have to be setup on the BM side?  I'm using 3102 as my server in case that helps.  The ID I'm using is 3137156.  Thanks for helping with all this!  73 de K4SQI!

Steve, K4SQI


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Steve,
You have hblink configured as a Master. With what you are trying yo do, you need to be a client to the BM server. See below:

73, Steve N4IRS

# MASTER INSTANCES - DUPLICATE SECTION FOR MULTIPLE MASTERS
# HomeBrew Protocol Master instances go here.
# IP may be left blank if there's one interface on your system.
# Port should be the port you want this master to listen on. It must be unique
# and unused by anything else.
# Repeat - if True, the master repeats traffic to clients, False, it does nothing.
[MASTER-1]
MODE: MASTER
ENABLED: False
REPEAT: True
EXPORT_AMBE: False
IP: 127.0.0.1
PORT: 62031
PASSPHRASE: passw0rd
GROUP_HANGTIME: 5

# CLIENT INSTANCES - DUPLICATE SECTION FOR MULTIPLE CLIENTS
# There are a LOT of errors in the HB Protocol specifications on this one!
# MOST of these items are just strings and will be properly dealt with by the program
# The TX & RX Frequencies are 9-digit numbers, and are the frequency in Hz.
# Latitude is an 8-digit unsigned floating point number.
# Longitude is a 9-digit signed floating point number.
# Height is in meters
[REPEATER-1]
MODE: CLIENT
ENABLED: True
EXPORT_AMBE: False
IP:
PORT: 54001
MASTER_IP:
MASTER_PORT: 62031
PASSPHRASE: passw0rd
CALLSIGN: K4SQI
RADIO_ID: 1234567  <------- Put your repeater ID here.
RX_FREQ: 449000000
TX_FREQ: 444000000
TX_POWER: 25
COLORCODE: 1
SLOTS: 3
LATITUDE: 41.7333
LONGITUDE: -50.3999
HEIGHT: 75
LOCATION: Iceberg, USA
DESCRIPTION: HBlink repeater
URL: https://groups.io/g/DVSwitch
SOFTWARE_ID: 20170620
PACKAGE_ID: MMDVM_HBlink
GROUP_HANGTIME: 5
OPTIONS:


On 09/25/2017 12:40 AM, Steven Blackford wrote:
Hello,
   I've been following the group for a while & have been exchanging emails with Steve, N4IRS over the past few days.  I'm hoping to create a DMR<->D-Star bridge using Analog_Bridge, Dummy Repeater, HB_Bridge.  I have the D-Star side of things configured.  ircDDBGateway is running, I have DummyRepeater working & it sees traffic coming from the network.  I'm wanting to create this bridge from XRF054A on D-Star over to BM TG 31254.  I've attached my initial config files.  I was working on things this evening when I got called out to work.  Any insight would be appreciated.  Thanks & 73 de K4SQI!

Steve, K4SQI




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Re: Hoping these config files look ok

Steve N4IRS
 

You are running HB_Bridge.py? "python HB_Bridge.py" in the foreground. Are you seeing any traffic in either direction at the console?

On 9/25/2017 10:38 AM, Steven Blackford wrote:
Hi Steve,
     Yeah, that would help wouldn't it! Ok, I've made the adjustments & HB_Bridge successfully logs into the BM Network.  I'm not seeing any response If I key up on TG 31254 though.  I don't see any traffic.  My "Repeater ID" is my DMR ID.  Since I don't have a repeater, I made the adjustments & it's is showing up in my list of hotspots on the BM Selfcare portal.  I've assigned 31254 as a static TG on TS 2 which is how I have it setup in the software.  Does anything else have to be setup on the BM side?  I'm using 3102 as my server in case that helps.  The ID I'm using is 3137156.  Thanks for helping with all this!  73 de K4SQI!

Steve, K4SQI


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Steve,
You have hblink configured as a Master. With what you are trying yo do, you need to be a client to the BM server. See below:

73, Steve N4IRS

# MASTER INSTANCES - DUPLICATE SECTION FOR MULTIPLE MASTERS
# HomeBrew Protocol Master instances go here.
# IP may be left blank if there's one interface on your system.
# Port should be the port you want this master to listen on. It must be unique
# and unused by anything else.
# Repeat - if True, the master repeats traffic to clients, False, it does nothing.
[MASTER-1]
MODE: MASTER
ENABLED: False
REPEAT: True
EXPORT_AMBE: False
IP: 127.0.0.1
PORT: 62031
PASSPHRASE: passw0rd
GROUP_HANGTIME: 5

# CLIENT INSTANCES - DUPLICATE SECTION FOR MULTIPLE CLIENTS
# There are a LOT of errors in the HB Protocol specifications on this one!
# MOST of these items are just strings and will be properly dealt with by the program
# The TX & RX Frequencies are 9-digit numbers, and are the frequency in Hz.
# Latitude is an 8-digit unsigned floating point number.
# Longitude is a 9-digit signed floating point number.
# Height is in meters
[REPEATER-1]
MODE: CLIENT
ENABLED: True
EXPORT_AMBE: False
IP:
PORT: 54001
MASTER_IP:
MASTER_PORT: 62031
PASSPHRASE: passw0rd
CALLSIGN: K4SQI
RADIO_ID: 1234567  <------- Put your repeater ID here.
RX_FREQ: 449000000
TX_FREQ: 444000000
TX_POWER: 25
COLORCODE: 1
SLOTS: 3
LATITUDE: 41.7333
LONGITUDE: -50.3999
HEIGHT: 75
LOCATION: Iceberg, USA
DESCRIPTION: HBlink repeater
URL: https://groups.io/g/DVSwitch
SOFTWARE_ID: 20170620
PACKAGE_ID: MMDVM_HBlink
GROUP_HANGTIME: 5
OPTIONS:


On 09/25/2017 12:40 AM, Steven Blackford wrote:
Hello,
   I've been following the group for a while & have been exchanging emails with Steve, N4IRS over the past few days.  I'm hoping to create a DMR<->D-Star bridge using Analog_Bridge, Dummy Repeater, HB_Bridge.  I have the D-Star side of things configured.  ircDDBGateway is running, I have DummyRepeater working & it sees traffic coming from the network.  I'm wanting to create this bridge from XRF054A on D-Star over to BM TG 31254.  I've attached my initial config files.  I was working on things this evening when I got called out to work.  Any insight would be appreciated.  Thanks & 73 de K4SQI!

Steve, K4SQI




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Re: Hoping these config files look ok

Steven Blackford
 

Hi Steve,
     Yeah, that would help wouldn't it! Ok, I've made the adjustments & HB_Bridge successfully logs into the BM Network.  I'm not seeing any response If I key up on TG 31254 though.  I don't see any traffic.  My "Repeater ID" is my DMR ID.  Since I don't have a repeater, I made the adjustments & it's is showing up in my list of hotspots on the BM Selfcare portal.  I've assigned 31254 as a static TG on TS 2 which is how I have it setup in the software.  Does anything else have to be setup on the BM side?  I'm using 3102 as my server in case that helps.  The ID I'm using is 3137156.  Thanks for helping with all this!  73 de K4SQI!

Steve, K4SQI


On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Steve,
You have hblink configured as a Master. With what you are trying yo do, you need to be a client to the BM server. See below:

73, Steve N4IRS

# MASTER INSTANCES - DUPLICATE SECTION FOR MULTIPLE MASTERS
# HomeBrew Protocol Master instances go here.
# IP may be left blank if there's one interface on your system.
# Port should be the port you want this master to listen on. It must be unique
# and unused by anything else.
# Repeat - if True, the master repeats traffic to clients, False, it does nothing.
[MASTER-1]
MODE: MASTER
ENABLED: False
REPEAT: True
EXPORT_AMBE: False
IP: 127.0.0.1
PORT: 62031
PASSPHRASE: passw0rd
GROUP_HANGTIME: 5

# CLIENT INSTANCES - DUPLICATE SECTION FOR MULTIPLE CLIENTS
# There are a LOT of errors in the HB Protocol specifications on this one!
# MOST of these items are just strings and will be properly dealt with by the program
# The TX & RX Frequencies are 9-digit numbers, and are the frequency in Hz.
# Latitude is an 8-digit unsigned floating point number.
# Longitude is a 9-digit signed floating point number.
# Height is in meters
[REPEATER-1]
MODE: CLIENT
ENABLED: True
EXPORT_AMBE: False
IP:
PORT: 54001
MASTER_IP:
MASTER_PORT: 62031
PASSPHRASE: passw0rd
CALLSIGN: K4SQI
RADIO_ID: 1234567  <------- Put your repeater ID here.
RX_FREQ: 449000000
TX_FREQ: 444000000
TX_POWER: 25
COLORCODE: 1
SLOTS: 3
LATITUDE: 41.7333
LONGITUDE: -50.3999
HEIGHT: 75
LOCATION: Iceberg, USA
DESCRIPTION: HBlink repeater
URL: https://groups.io/g/DVSwitch
SOFTWARE_ID: 20170620
PACKAGE_ID: MMDVM_HBlink
GROUP_HANGTIME: 5
OPTIONS:


On 09/25/2017 12:40 AM, Steven Blackford wrote:
Hello,
   I've been following the group for a while & have been exchanging emails with Steve, N4IRS over the past few days.  I'm hoping to create a DMR<->D-Star bridge using Analog_Bridge, Dummy Repeater, HB_Bridge.  I have the D-Star side of things configured.  ircDDBGateway is running, I have DummyRepeater working & it sees traffic coming from the network.  I'm wanting to create this bridge from XRF054A on D-Star over to BM TG 31254.  I've attached my initial config files.  I was working on things this evening when I got called out to work.  Any insight would be appreciated.  Thanks & 73 de K4SQI!

Steve, K4SQI




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Re: Hoping these config files look ok

Steve N4IRS
 

Steve,
You have hblink configured as a Master. With what you are trying yo do, you need to be a client to the BM server. See below:

73, Steve N4IRS

# MASTER INSTANCES - DUPLICATE SECTION FOR MULTIPLE MASTERS
# HomeBrew Protocol Master instances go here.
# IP may be left blank if there's one interface on your system.
# Port should be the port you want this master to listen on. It must be unique
# and unused by anything else.
# Repeat - if True, the master repeats traffic to clients, False, it does nothing.
[MASTER-1]
MODE: MASTER
ENABLED: False
REPEAT: True
EXPORT_AMBE: False
IP: 127.0.0.1
PORT: 62031
PASSPHRASE: passw0rd
GROUP_HANGTIME: 5

# CLIENT INSTANCES - DUPLICATE SECTION FOR MULTIPLE CLIENTS
# There are a LOT of errors in the HB Protocol specifications on this one!
# MOST of these items are just strings and will be properly dealt with by the program
# The TX & RX Frequencies are 9-digit numbers, and are the frequency in Hz.
# Latitude is an 8-digit unsigned floating point number.
# Longitude is a 9-digit signed floating point number.
# Height is in meters
[REPEATER-1]
MODE: CLIENT
ENABLED: True
EXPORT_AMBE: False
IP:
PORT: 54001
MASTER_IP:
MASTER_PORT: 62031
PASSPHRASE: passw0rd
CALLSIGN: K4SQI
RADIO_ID: 1234567  <------- Put your repeater ID here.
RX_FREQ: 449000000
TX_FREQ: 444000000
TX_POWER: 25
COLORCODE: 1
SLOTS: 3
LATITUDE: 41.7333
LONGITUDE: -50.3999
HEIGHT: 75
LOCATION: Iceberg, USA
DESCRIPTION: HBlink repeater
URL: https://groups.io/g/DVSwitch
SOFTWARE_ID: 20170620
PACKAGE_ID: MMDVM_HBlink
GROUP_HANGTIME: 5
OPTIONS:


On 09/25/2017 12:40 AM, Steven Blackford wrote:
Hello,
   I've been following the group for a while & have been exchanging emails with Steve, N4IRS over the past few days.  I'm hoping to create a DMR<->D-Star bridge using Analog_Bridge, Dummy Repeater, HB_Bridge.  I have the D-Star side of things configured.  ircDDBGateway is running, I have DummyRepeater working & it sees traffic coming from the network.  I'm wanting to create this bridge from XRF054A on D-Star over to BM TG 31254.  I've attached my initial config files.  I was working on things this evening when I got called out to work.  Any insight would be appreciated.  Thanks & 73 de K4SQI!

Steve, K4SQI

Hoping these config files look ok

Steven Blackford
 

Hello,
   I've been following the group for a while & have been exchanging emails with Steve, N4IRS over the past few days.  I'm hoping to create a DMR<->D-Star bridge using Analog_Bridge, Dummy Repeater, HB_Bridge.  I have the D-Star side of things configured.  ircDDBGateway is running, I have DummyRepeater working & it sees traffic coming from the network.  I'm wanting to create this bridge from XRF054A on D-Star over to BM TG 31254.  I've attached my initial config files.  I was working on things this evening when I got called out to work.  Any insight would be appreciated.  Thanks & 73 de K4SQI!

Steve, K4SQI

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Analog_Bridge.ini
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HB_Bridge.cfg
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hblink.cfg

Re: My availability

Peter M0NWI
 


Batten down the hatches Steve, hope it blows over without too much damage!


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From: DVSwitch@groups.io <DVSwitch@groups.io> on behalf of Steve N4IRS <szingman@...>
Sent: 08 September 2017 13:34:26
To: DVSwitch@groups.io
Subject: [DVSwitch] My availability
 
Due to a visit from our aunt Irma, my availability will be somewhat limited for the foreseeable future.

73, Steve N4IRS

Re: My availability

David KE6UPI
 

Be safe. Where are you heading to?

David



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Thanks, David

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one."
Thomas Jefferson

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Jean-Marc F1SCA <magnier.jeanmarc@...> wrote:
Steve, take good care of yourself and your family.

Jean-Marc - F1SCA


Re: My availability

Jean-Marc F1SCA
 

Steve, take good care of yourself and your family.

Jean-Marc - F1SCA
Re: My availability

Matthew Pitts N8OHU
 

Stay safe.

Matthew
N8OHU


On September 8, 2017 8:34:26 AM EDT, Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Due to a visit from our aunt Irma, my availability will be somewhat limited for the foreseeable future.

73, Steve N4IRS

Re: My availability

Chuck Kraly K0XM
 

you and mike and your families stay safe buddy



Chuck K0XM
My availability

Steve N4IRS
 

Due to a visit from our aunt Irma, my availability will be somewhat limited for the foreseeable future.

73, Steve N4IRS
Re: DVMega AMBE3000

Matthew 2E0SIP
 

Thanks for your testing Flo, looks good!
Re: DVMega AMBE3000

Florian Wolters
 

Matthev,

I am not into the details but I made a short test for you using a
ThumbDV USB dongle. Results in the file attached.

vy73 de Florian DF2ET

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ThumbDVtext.txt

Re: DVMega AMBE3000

Matthew 2E0SIP
 

Hi All,

After a chat with Guus, I *think* I can confirm that the DVMega AMBE 3000 will work with Analog_Bridge.

By default it's configured to operate in CODEC mode, so a PKT_RESETSOFTCFG command must be issued to cause it to ignore the hardware pin configuration.

After a bit of trial and error, the "magic number" is '61 00 06 00 34 05 00 00 0F 00 00'. This forces it into packet mode over the UART interface, with DTXEN switched off. I've attached the output from my modified version of AMBEtest4.py to this message for you to take a look at. 1000/1000 packets were decoded.

I've forked the repo and included my change to AMBEtest4.py here - https://github.com/marrold/Analog_Bridge , please could someone test with a ThumbDV if possible? In theory it only forces UART PACKET mode with DTX disabled, so it shouldn't cause any problems. 

Cheers all!
Matthew

 

 

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ambetest.txt

Re: DVMega AMBE3000

Steve N4IRS
 

On the NWDigital PiDV DTXEN is pulled low. I don't know if I have the schematic on the DV3000u. I ASSUME it's the same state.

Steve

On 8/28/2017 11:46 AM, Matthew 2E0SIP wrote:

Cheers Steve, that's very helpful. 

It looks like the DVMEGA AMBE3000 can generate AMBE comfort noise packets if it's not receiving any audio, I wonder if that's what's going on here-

The Voice Activity Detection (VAD) algorithm along with the Comfort Noise Insertion (CNI) feature of the AMBE-3000™ Vocoder Chip performs useful functions in systems trying to convert periods of silence, that exist in normal conversation, to savings in system bandwidth or power. VAD and CNI can be enabled by either hardware configuration pin (DTX_ENABLE TQFP pin5 BGA pin C1) or as part of a control packet. 

I will drop Guus a message and see if he has any thoughts.

Thanks again
Matthew
2E0SIP

Re: DVMega AMBE3000

Matthew 2E0SIP
 

Cheers Steve, that's very helpful. 

It looks like the DVMEGA AMBE3000 can generate AMBE comfort noise packets if it's not receiving any audio, I wonder if that's what's going on here-

The Voice Activity Detection (VAD) algorithm along with the Comfort Noise Insertion (CNI) feature of the AMBE-3000™ Vocoder Chip performs useful functions in systems trying to convert periods of silence, that exist in normal conversation, to savings in system bandwidth or power. VAD and CNI can be enabled by either hardware configuration pin (DTX_ENABLE TQFP pin5 BGA pin C1) or as part of a control packet. 

I will drop Guus a message and see if he has any thoughts.

Thanks again
Matthew
2E0SIP
Re: DVMega AMBE3000

Steve N4IRS
 



On 8/28/2017 8:38 AM, Matthew 2E0SIP wrote:

Hi Steve,

Do you have any idea why its a "no go" ? Does the carrier board not expose direct access to the AMBE 3000 chip?

Cheers

Matthew

Mike pointed this out to me.

If you look at the logs you see a constant stream of:

61000801xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Where xx is an AMBE byte. 

61 = Header

00 08 = 8 bytes of payload

01 = Channel data (AMBE)

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx = The AMBE data


This occurs no matter what the chip is being commanded to do.
We expect to send a command followed by a response. Do not understand why we are getting more.

Steve
,_._,_

Setting serial port
Serial port parameters:
Port name:      /dev/ttyUSB1
Baudrate:       115200
Byte size:      8
Parity:         N
Stop bits:      1
Xon Xoff:       False
RTS/CTS:        False
DST/DTR:        False
a
Testing Reset DV3000
Errror, DV3000 send back invalid start byte.  Expected 0x61 and got 19 Reset DV3000
137461000801013068662d2264786100080101303e024f04432e61000801013028460967647c6100080101301c240e74066c6100080101303e024e37430e6100080101301c246b41176c61000801013078420d26217a6100080101307c062d0544526100080101303e062b21737e6100080101302e242
f61220a6100080101303c204b4242786100080101301e060c07767c6100080101303c260f07206861000801013038642d0646486100080101302a440f23472e6100080101301e202f07636e6100080101302e4628134194610008010130d4a4c56645666100080101306a626812145e6100080101303c
060f35510a6100080101303c242f02576e6100080101307c042d4776606100080101306e042e12742c6100080101302c220d2323686100080101303c206f04316e610008010130e404674776756100080101301e606b71762c61000801013068460c15274a6100080101303e206c12477a61000801013
05e24287555466100080101303e060852132e6100080101304a424d65774c6100080101306c224856477a6100080101307c206f2140726100080101304a460d42156c6100080101305e62285360246100080101304e060f22314e6100080101303e020f2652686100080101300c060b40673e61000801
01300e024f2431d66100080101308e068704646c6100080101307c024e3045786100080101307e060c1753726100080101303c262d3016c061000801013018424f25646c6100080101306c662945714261000801013068402c71556a610008010130b6260874656f6100080101300e006f02733861000
80101307c026b44757c6100080101
Testing Get Product ID
Errror, DV3000 send back invalid start byte.  Expected 0x61 and got 48 Get Product ID
306c026874256c6100080101306c062d6132426100080101301e262d14602e6100080101308e022635257d6100080101306c042c10544e6100080101303e242a77137861000801013008642d46346e6100080101303c060f20745e61000801013068424f06526a6100080101304c024c30750e6100080
101305e246b0375746100080101307e006d45662c6100080101307c260f01307461000801013068460a76637a610008010130a6260417516f6100080101305c026f04340c610008010130c2406675466f6100080101306c064d0323626100080101302e260d07710e6100080101302e024e12564e6100
080101306e242947663a6100080101304c206f03526461000801013068462f25055a61000801013084204d34566d610008010130b6240520647f6100080101303e242f05700e6100080101302e040f00356a61000801013038642d6604846100080101305c420b6567666100080101304e242941614e6
1000801013048606d20210e6100080101306c26685165766100080101303c042963135e6100080101306e026c07033a6100080101306c042b60775661000801013078626d0603686100080101302c060a76137a610008010130f2460651565f6100080101306c266d2521726100080101303a462a5347
3e6100080101301c602d27004c6100080101306a606d04646a6100080101302c040872727e61000801013068260b41463c6100080101307e024d6534246100080101301c226c10666c6100080101306e242960015a6100080101302c042967654a6100080101307a602f47323e6100080101303c424a7
0575e6100080101306c024f214172
Testing Get Version
In test Get Version
Error, did not get expected value from DV3000.  Got: 0j`l4CJ expected 1V120.E100.XXXX.C106.G514.R009.B0010411.C0020208
01306a606c34434a
Testing Set DSTAR Mode
In test Set DSTAR Mode
Error, did not get expected value from DV3000.  Got: 0WFt expected

01304c0608574674
Testing Reset DV3000
In test Reset DV3000
Error, did not get expected value from DV3000.  Got: 0|O1. expected 9
01307c024f03312e
Testing Set DMR Mode
In test Set DMR Mode
Error, did not get expected value from DV3000.  Got: 0Hb
                                                        dG^ expected

013048620b64475e
Testing Decode AMBE
Test result: Success (6100080101302c060a74717e)
Error, did not get the right number of PCM bytes back from an encode 8
Re: DVMega AMBE3000

Matthew 2E0SIP
 

Hi Steve,

Do you have any idea why its a "no go" ? Does the carrier board not expose direct access to the AMBE 3000 chip?

Cheers

Matthew
Re: DVMega AMBE3000

Steve N4IRS
 

Nope,
I'm going to have to call this a "no go"

Steve

On 8/25/2017 9:46 AM, Matthew 2E0SIP wrote:

Hi Guys,

If it doesn't work out the box it's probably not worth spending more time on it, I was just curious as the DVMEGA AMBE 3000 is about the same cost as the ThumbDV.

I will grab a ThumbDV instead.

Thanks for investigating.
Re: DVMega AMBE3000

Steve N4IRS
 

I just had a idea I want to check before we call it a no go.

On 8/25/2017 9:46 AM, Matthew 2E0SIP wrote:

Hi Guys,

If it doesn't work out the box it's probably not worth spending more time on it, I was just curious as the DVMEGA AMBE 3000 is about the same cost as the ThumbDV.

I will grab a ThumbDV instead.

Thanks for investigating.
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