Welcome to DVSwitch
Purpose
1) Allows “local” networking during an outage of the regional national/international network server.
2) Allows a local network operator to “blend” upstream feeds from different Networks (capital N on purpose). These Networks can’t get their act together and learn how to play nice with each other (everyone guilty as far as we are concerned). They may not like people doing this, but the solution is to grow up and work with each other, and not keep trying to force people to take sides.
3) Allows local segregation of localized traffic with more flexibility.
4) Allows experimentation with linking and how it’s done (part 97 specifies experimentation and advancement of the radio art are a core part of amateur radio).
Mission Statement/Position
WHEREAS the Networks continue to be largely islands and are not working together to create a unified network of Networks.
WHEREAS no firm reason has been given by any of the Networks why a *competent* local network operator cannot make this work effectively.
(US ONLY)
WHEREAS 47 CFR 97 (Amateur Radio Service) specifies that a core component of amateur radio is experimentation and advancement of the radio art [97.1(b)].
BE IT RESOLVED the core group of US amateur radio operators and experimenters organized around the DVSwitch project, and in the spirit of USA 47 CFR 97 and its intentions, support the *responsible* and *thoughtful* use of digital voice networking tools to create localized networks that will interconnect to the national/international Networks, and will support users of its tools in order to do this in the most effective and sustainable way possible.
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Re: RF to RF bridge
Neil k8it
They just insulted a YSF wires x node called MICONNECT about one quarter mile away from me. Both my wife and I have DMR radios. When I tryed to use a hotspot the internet delays ranged from 5 to 8 seconds. This makes having a QSO convection almost impossible. Nobody waits that long between transmissions. You are lucky to get 5 seconds. What I want to do is to avoid the internet latency and create a RF to RF bridge. I know that these times were confirmed by others using hotspots. I also know that PiStar and the Openspot can crossmode. How can I do this without suffering the internet delays? The YSF repeater is least than a quarter mile away, and I want to have a local DMR connection in my hamshack. How do I do this?
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73 Neil k8it
On Jul 30, 2019, at 2:14 PM, Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> wrote:
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Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help
#analog_bridge
#dmrlink
Chris, Since I can't look over your sholder, please post your [DMR] and
[DMR Network] stanzas from MMDVM_Bridge.ini
On 7/30/2019 3:13 PM, Chris K7AZ via
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Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help
#analog_bridge
#dmrlink
Chris K7AZ
I'm now able to see the foreground running of MMDVM_Bridge. It appears log-in to Master Failed. BM does not show 310689107. I set it to connect to 3103.repeater.net. Open to further hints :) Thank you, Chris K7AZ Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> Date: 7/30/19 06:26 (GMT-08:00) To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge The howto is a step by step. You should follow each step. The document had you CD to the directory before editing the .ini file.
From: Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io
I kinda knew I was missing something simple... that was it.. thank you. :)
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> Date: 7/30/19 06:11 (GMT-08:00) To: main@dvswitch.groups.io Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge
You should be in /opt/MMDVM_Bridge directory. Sent via smoke signal (AT&T)
From: main@... <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io <kilo7alphazulu@...>
I'm entering that at the root level and it just says: bash: ./MMDVM_Bridge: No such file or directory.
Maybe I'm at the wrong level?
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> Date: 7/30/19 02:32 (GMT-08:00) To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge
It is the netx line in the document. On 7/29/19 11:47 PM, Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: RF to RF bridge
If I am reading this right, I think what Neil is describing is a way for a DMR radio to talk with a Fusion radio, without needing to go to a reflector or other network. It's an interesting thought experiment, and here's what I think.
Pi-Star to Pi-Star, probably not. Pi-Star is designed from the ground up to talk to existing networks, and from what I've seen there's no 'easy' way of making two Pi-Star hotspots talk to each other in that fashion. Even going from mode to mode on Pi-Star (say, DMR radio to a YSF reflector) uses the MMDVM_CM tools, if I recall correctly. Openspot has a hotspot-to-hotspot mode, but I believe it's limited to only passing same-mode traffic, like DMR to DMR. Having not done this myself, this is limited to speculation. If you've got two Pi-Star hotspots already, you could have both of them connect to a central 'server' locally, running something like HBlink3. Connect one as a DMR hotspot to the HBlink master and the other hotspot as a DMR2YSF hotspot to the HBlink master. Kind of like this: Pi-Star (DMR) <-> HBlink3 Master (Local) <-> Pi-Star (DMR2YSF) This kind of setup I would consider an 'advanced' configuration, but I think it could work. Going back on what Steve N4IRS said, where are you experiencing up to an 8 second delay on the Internet? Unless you're using dial-up or you're on the furthest reaches of a DSL line, I can't say I've seen latency that high in a long time. Steve KC1AWV
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Re: RF to RF bridge
Neil, I don’t understand what you are trying to link to what. Where are you seeing a 8 second delay linking DMR to YSF?
From: Neil k8it
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:17 PM To: main@dvswitch.groups.io Subject: [DVSwitch] RF to RF bridge
73 Neil k8it
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RF to RF bridge
Neil k8it
Is there a way to make a RF to RF bridge without using the internet to crossmode between DMR and YSF? Can I link two PiStar setups locally without suffering internet latency ? Is it possible to use some other hardware to pull this off? Using the internet delays of up 8 seconds have been found. This makes the internet unreliable. The DMR side would be in my hamshack while the YSF side is reachable on very low power RF. This would save the needs to buy multiple radios for one YSF repeater. _._,_._,_
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Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help
#analog_bridge
#dmrlink
The howto is a step by step. You should follow each step. The document had you CD to the directory before editing the .ini file.
From: Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:22 AM To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge
I kinda knew I was missing something simple... that was it.. thank you. :)
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> Date: 7/30/19 06:11 (GMT-08:00) To: main@dvswitch.groups.io Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge
You should be in /opt/MMDVM_Bridge directory. Sent via smoke signal (AT&T)
From: main@... <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io <kilo7alphazulu@...>
I'm entering that at the root level and it just says: bash: ./MMDVM_Bridge: No such file or directory.
Maybe I'm at the wrong level?
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> Date: 7/30/19 02:32 (GMT-08:00) To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge
It is the netx line in the document. On 7/29/19 11:47 PM, Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help
#analog_bridge
#dmrlink
MMDVM_Bridge is the program that connects to BrandMeister. Let’s check it’s status:
You will see the status of the mmdvm_bridge service
Good, MMDVM_Bridge is not running though it is enabled, meaning it will start at boot.
Change directory to /opt/MMDVM_Bridge
Let’s see what files are in the directory /opt/MMDVM_Bridge
You will see the program and it’s two configuration files.
From: Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:09 AM To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge
I'm entering that at the root level and it just says: bash: ./MMDVM_Bridge: No such file or directory.
Maybe I'm at the wrong level?
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> Date: 7/30/19 02:32 (GMT-08:00) To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge
It is the netx line in the document. On 7/29/19 11:47 PM, Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help
#analog_bridge
#dmrlink
Chris K7AZ
I kinda knew I was missing something simple... that was it.. thank you. :) Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> Date: 7/30/19 06:11 (GMT-08:00) To: main@dvswitch.groups.io Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge
You should be in /opt/MMDVM_Bridge directory.
Sent via smoke signal (AT&T)
From: main@... <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io <kilo7alphazulu@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:09:35 AM To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge I'm entering that at the root level and it just says:
bash: ./MMDVM_Bridge: No such file or directory.
Maybe I'm at the wrong level?
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...>
Date: 7/30/19 02:32 (GMT-08:00)
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge
Time to test Run MMDVM_Bridge in the foreground ./MMDVM_Bridge MMDVM_Bridge.ini No, the ports do not need to be forwarded. On 7/29/19 11:47 PM, Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help
#analog_bridge
#dmrlink
You should be in /opt/MMDVM_Bridge directory.
Sent via smoke signal (AT&T)
From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io <kilo7alphazulu@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:09:35 AM To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge I'm entering that at the root level and it just says:
bash: ./MMDVM_Bridge: No such file or directory.
Maybe I'm at the wrong level?
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...>
Date: 7/30/19 02:32 (GMT-08:00)
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge
Time to test Run MMDVM_Bridge in the foreground ./MMDVM_Bridge MMDVM_Bridge.ini No, the ports do not need to be forwarded. On 7/29/19 11:47 PM, Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help
#analog_bridge
#dmrlink
Chris K7AZ
I'm entering that at the root level and it just says: bash: ./MMDVM_Bridge: No such file or directory. Maybe I'm at the wrong level? Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> Date: 7/30/19 02:32 (GMT-08:00) To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge Time to test Run MMDVM_Bridge in the foreground ./MMDVM_Bridge MMDVM_Bridge.ini No, the ports do not need to be forwarded. On 7/29/19 11:47 PM, Chris K7AZ via
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Re: HBmonitor and XLXPEERS support
I'm continuing work on HBmonitor3 - a Python 3 port of the original N0MJS HBmonitor.
The last bit that I worked on and seems to be hanging me up is dict.iteritems() is no longer in Python 3. According to some Google-foo and a Stack Overflow article, dict.items() in Python 3 does not have the same functionality that dict.iteritems() did. view object isn't the same as iterator, so if you want to return an iterator in Py3.x, you could use
This is the next hurdle. I'll be updating code as I have time available. If you want to collaborate on this effort with me, please submit code as a pull request on the github repository, found here: https://github.com/kc1awv/HBmonitor3Steve KC1AWV
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Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help
#analog_bridge
#dmrlink
It is the netx line in the document.
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Time to test Run MMDVM_Bridge in the foreground ./MMDVM_Bridge MMDVM_Bridge.ini No, the ports do not need to be forwarded.
On 7/29/19 11:47 PM, Chris K7AZ via
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Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help
#analog_bridge
#dmrlink
Chris K7AZ
I'm stuck at: Time to test Run MMDVM_Bridge in the foreground. HOW? Also, do ports 62031 and 62032 need to be forwarded? Thanks, Chris K7AZ Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io" <kilo7alphazulu@...> Date: 7/29/19 08:45 (GMT-08:00) To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge Thanks Steve :) Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> Date: 7/29/19 08:42 (GMT-08:00) To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eN50Csr29eAprBu7eKA0Bfa2XUcsXw5iktY1Ey-Qjkg/edit?usp=sharing>
Steve N4IRS
On 7/29/2019 11:34 AM, Chris K7AZ via
Groups.Io wrote:
Seeking assistance setting up an ASL to DMR interface. Platform is a private VM server. I have an ASL node set up 29837 and I'm about 70% into the DMR transcoder part when things started to not cooperate. TeamViewer available.
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Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help
#analog_bridge
#dmrlink
Chris K7AZ
Thanks Steve :) Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> Date: 7/29/19 08:42 (GMT-08:00) To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eN50Csr29eAprBu7eKA0Bfa2XUcsXw5iktY1Ey-Qjkg/edit?usp=sharing>
Steve N4IRS
On 7/29/2019 11:34 AM, Chris K7AZ via
Groups.Io wrote:
Seeking assistance setting up an ASL to DMR interface. Platform is a private VM server. I have an ASL node set up 29837 and I'm about 70% into the DMR transcoder part when things started to not cooperate. TeamViewer available.
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Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help
#analog_bridge
#dmrlink
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eN50Csr29eAprBu7eKA0Bfa2XUcsXw5iktY1Ey-Qjkg/edit?usp=sharing>
Steve N4IRS
On 7/29/2019 11:34 AM, Chris K7AZ via
Groups.Io wrote:
Seeking assistance setting up an ASL to DMR interface. Platform is a private VM server. I have an ASL node set up 29837 and I'm about 70% into the DMR transcoder part when things started to not cooperate. TeamViewer available.
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NOOB Setup-Configuration Help
#analog_bridge
#dmrlink
Chris K7AZ
Seeking assistance setting up an ASL to DMR interface. Platform is a private VM server. I have an ASL node set up 29837 and I'm about 70% into the DMR transcoder part when things started to not cooperate. TeamViewer available.
Evenings 6-8 PM CA time is best for me. Thank you, Chris K7AZ
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Re: Help Needed Allstar Node running DVSwitch with DMR and Echolink Bridge Adding P25
Jeff Wood
Thanks again Steve,
I have been looking around the files and did find the P25 side and and ASL were using the same ports (I flipped) the P25 ports [USRP]
address = 127.0.0.1
txPort = 34001 rxPort = 32001
Now I have P25 Transmissions from P25 to ASL and DMR, but still nothing from ASL or DMR back to P25... I am sure its a port still looking....
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HBmonitor and XLXPEERS support
Dan K2IE
It is a beauty. My XLXPEER now displays as expected.
Thanks!
From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve KC1AWV
New PR on github to fix a typo I overlooked on line 213. Also removed a \t at the end of the same line.
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Re: HBmonitor and XLXPEERS support
Cort N0MJS <n0mjs@...>
Bytes objects were the biggest issue porting untils and HBlink. They’re frustrating.
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On Jul 28, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> wrote:
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