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Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #analog_bridge #dmrlink

Chris K7AZ
 

Here is what I'm seeing.  
A minute after "Logged into master successfully" it says "Login to the master has failed, retrying connection".
Screen shot attached.



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-------- Original message --------
From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...>
Date: 8/1/19 16:23 (GMT-08:00)
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge

Changing the password is not going to do you any good. The password for US Masters is "passw0rd" It's either logging in or not. Are you really sure it's ever logging in? This is what a successful login looks like:

M: 2019-08-01 23:20:21.455 MMDVM_Bridge-20180423 is running
D: 2019-08-01 23:20:31.493 DMR, Sending authorisation
D: 2019-08-01 23:20:31.540 DMR, Sending configuration
M: 2019-08-01 23:20:31.586 DMR, Logged into the master successfully
 

On 8/1/19 6:40 PM, Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io wrote:
When I examine the master info for my repeater,  it shows Zeros all the way across the board. Is that good or bad?  

In MMDVM_Bridge.ini  it is again showing connecting and disconnecting every 2 minutes.  
Tweaking the master password again is not fixing that issue.  

Any hints very much appreciated.   :)



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-------- Original message --------
From: Eric Dayrit <kf6itc@...>
Date: 8/1/19 10:53 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge

most of the time the file is there but it doesn't hurt to double check.

73, Eric

Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #analog_bridge #dmrlink

Steve N4IRS
 

Changing the password is not going to do you any good. The password for US Masters is "passw0rd" It's either logging in or not. Are you really sure it's ever logging in? This is what a successful login looks like:

M: 2019-08-01 23:20:21.455 MMDVM_Bridge-20180423 is running
D: 2019-08-01 23:20:31.493 DMR, Sending authorisation
D: 2019-08-01 23:20:31.540 DMR, Sending configuration
M: 2019-08-01 23:20:31.586 DMR, Logged into the master successfully
 

On 8/1/19 6:40 PM, Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io wrote:
When I examine the master info for my repeater,  it shows Zeros all the way across the board. Is that good or bad?  

In MMDVM_Bridge.ini  it is again showing connecting and disconnecting every 2 minutes.  
Tweaking the master password again is not fixing that issue.  

Any hints very much appreciated.   :)



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-------- Original message --------
From: Eric Dayrit <kf6itc@...>
Date: 8/1/19 10:53 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge

most of the time the file is there but it doesn't hurt to double check.

73, Eric

Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #analog_bridge #dmrlink

Chris K7AZ
 

When I examine the master info for my repeater,  it shows Zeros all the way across the board. Is that good or bad?  

In MMDVM_Bridge.ini  it is again showing connecting and disconnecting every 2 minutes.  
Tweaking the master password again is not fixing that issue.  

Any hints very much appreciated.   :)



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-------- Original message --------
From: Eric Dayrit <kf6itc@...>
Date: 8/1/19 10:53 (GMT-08:00)
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge

most of the time the file is there but it doesn't hurt to double check.

73, Eric

Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #analog_bridge #dmrlink

Eric-K6KWB
 

most of the time the file is there but it doesn't hurt to double check.

73, Eric
Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #analog_bridge #dmrlink

Chris K7AZ
 

Thanks,  I'll plug in those and see what goes right  :)



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-------- Original message --------
From: Eric Dayrit <kf6itc@...>
Date: 8/1/19 10:22 (GMT-08:00)
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge

This works for me.

; Metadata management
subscriberFile = /var/lib/dvswitch/DMRIds.csv    ; DMR ID to callsign lookup data
exportMetadata = true                                         ; Export metadata to USRP partner (transcode setups require this)
 
Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #analog_bridge #dmrlink

Eric-K6KWB
 

This works for me.

; Metadata management
subscriberFile = /var/lib/dvswitch/DMRIds.csv    ; DMR ID to callsign lookup data
exportMetadata = true                                         ; Export metadata to USRP partner (transcode setups require this)
 
Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #analog_bridge #dmrlink

Chris K7AZ
 

Here is what it looks like at the moment: 



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io" <kilo7alphazulu@...>
Date: 7/31/19 20:33 (GMT-08:00)
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge

Sorry, here is the photo of 28 page doc. 



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-------- Original message --------
From: kilo7alphazulu <kilo7alphazulu@...>
Date: 7/31/19 20:31 (GMT-08:00)
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge

Question on Analog_Bridge:
Under General/Metadata management, should current subscriberFile entry be changed to match the 28 page document (image attached)?  
Does the order of entries matter?

Thank you,
Chris K7AZ 




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Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #analog_bridge #dmrlink

Chris K7AZ
 

Sorry, here is the photo of 28 page doc. 



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-------- Original message --------
From: kilo7alphazulu <kilo7alphazulu@...>
Date: 7/31/19 20:31 (GMT-08:00)
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge

Question on Analog_Bridge:
Under General/Metadata management, should current subscriberFile entry be changed to match the 28 page document (image attached)?  
Does the order of entries matter?

Thank you,
Chris K7AZ 




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Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #analog_bridge #dmrlink

Chris K7AZ
 

Question on Analog_Bridge:
Under General/Metadata management, should current subscriberFile entry be changed to match the 28 page document (image attached)?  
Does the order of entries matter?

Thank you,
Chris K7AZ 




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-------- Original message --------
From: "Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io" <kilo7alphazulu@...>
Date: 7/31/19 15:36 (GMT-08:00)
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge

Thank you!  Makes sense now.  



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-------- Original message --------
From: Adrian Fewster <vk4tux@...>
Date: 7/31/19 14:35 (GMT-08:00)
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge

passw1rd is just for the UK server, The generic password worldwide is ; 
passw0rd     0 = zero.

On 31/7/19 11:59 pm, Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hi Ernest,
> I tried the PW you suggested but only results in 100% failure.
>
> As for the IP address, 3103.repeater.net is the BM 3103 master server
> and pings every time.
>
> One thing of interest, since putting the PW back to passw0rd, I no
> longer get the reoccurring timeout error and retries...
>
> Maybe Murphy left the building?
>
>
Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #analog_bridge #dmrlink

Chris K7AZ
 

Thank you!  Makes sense now.  



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-------- Original message --------
From: Adrian Fewster <vk4tux@...>
Date: 7/31/19 14:35 (GMT-08:00)
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #dmrlink #analog_bridge

passw1rd is just for the UK server, The generic password worldwide is ; 
passw0rd     0 = zero.

On 31/7/19 11:59 pm, Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hi Ernest,
> I tried the PW you suggested but only results in 100% failure.
>
> As for the IP address, 3103.repeater.net is the BM 3103 master server
> and pings every time.
>
> One thing of interest, since putting the PW back to passw0rd, I no
> longer get the reoccurring timeout error and retries...
>
> Maybe Murphy left the building?
>
>
Re: NOOB Setup-Configuration Help #analog_bridge #dmrlink

Adrian Fewster <vk4tux@...>
 

passw1rd is just for the UK server, The generic password worldwide is ;  passw0rd     0 = zero.

On 31/7/19 11:59 pm, Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Ernest,
I tried the PW you suggested but only results in 100% failure.

As for the IP address, 3103.repeater.net is the BM 3103 master server and pings every time.

One thing of interest, since putting the PW back to passw0rd, I no longer get the reoccurring timeout error and retries...

Maybe Murphy left the building?
Re: Wires-X options

Robert Bretzman
 

Sounds great Jeff, Thanks to a bunch of hard work from the guys that do the coding the bridges on our Network work very well.
It is great to have knowledgeable hams willing to share their great work so everyone can enjoy the hobby.
73
Robert
K4WZV



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:54 PM Jeff - WA3PNY via Groups.Io <bauerjv=mac.com@groups.io> wrote:
We have Wires-X to XLX working with a RF bridge.  That’s the problem with proprietary protocols.


Jeff


Rev. Jeffrey V. Bauer
6381 Mulberry Ln.
Macungie, PA 18062
WA3PNY
CCS-7 3142263
NXDN 504
Wires-X 18394/28394

On Jul 31, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Patrick Perdue <patrick@...> wrote:

I, too, would love to find a way to connect a XLX reflector to Wires-X, and have not heard of this being done, only YSF.


On 7/31/2019 10:48 AM, Steve N4IRS wrote:


On 7/31/2019 10:44 AM, Skyler Fennell wrote:
My understanding is that BrandMeister reverse engineered the Wires-X protocol so we can connect to wires-x nodes through their system. 
Correct
Is this wires-x to DMR code public, I can't find it anywhere. Is BM open source? Is there any other way to cross-link to Wires-X without using an RF link or going through BM?
No, the reverse code is not public. No, BM is not open source. I do not know of a way to connect to Wires-X.

Steve
 

Re: Wires-X options

Jeff - WA3PNY
 

We have Wires-X to XLX working with a RF bridge.  That’s the problem with proprietary protocols.


Jeff


Rev. Jeffrey V. Bauer
6381 Mulberry Ln.
Macungie, PA 18062
WA3PNY
CCS-7 3142263
NXDN 504
Wires-X 18394/28394

On Jul 31, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Patrick Perdue <patrick@...> wrote:

I, too, would love to find a way to connect a XLX reflector to Wires-X, and have not heard of this being done, only YSF.


On 7/31/2019 10:48 AM, Steve N4IRS wrote:


On 7/31/2019 10:44 AM, Skyler Fennell wrote:
My understanding is that BrandMeister reverse engineered the Wires-X protocol so we can connect to wires-x nodes through their system. 
Correct
Is this wires-x to DMR code public, I can't find it anywhere. Is BM open source? Is there any other way to cross-link to Wires-X without using an RF link or going through BM?
No, the reverse code is not public. No, BM is not open source. I do not know of a way to connect to Wires-X.

Steve
 

PDF
Penn-Link Constellation Rev 1.pdf

Re: Connection To BrandMeister Timing/Dropping Out #mmdvm_bridge

Chris K7AZ
 

Still scratching my head on how it kinda connected before..  One retype of that character and it works..     

Now to debug the rest of linked elements and see if there is transcoded joy.  

Thanks,
Chris K7AZ 



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-------- Original message --------
From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...>
Date: 7/31/19 07:06 (GMT-08:00)
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Connection To BrandMeister Timing/Dropping Out #mmdvm_bridge

A CAP O would not have logged in at all.

On 7/31/2019 10:05 AM, Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io wrote:
Master Server PW might have had a CAP O instead of 0 (zero).  Happy Server log in now.  :)



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io" <kilo7alphazulu@...>
Date: 7/30/19 20:01 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Connection To BrandMeister Timing/Dropping Out #mmdvm_bridge

Should I start over from scratch?



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-------- Original message --------
From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...>
Date: 7/30/19 19:55 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Connection To BrandMeister Timing/Dropping Out #mmdvm_bridge

Yes top will show what is running. Then I have no idea why it is disconnecting.

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From: main@... <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io <kilo7alphazulu@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:53:30 PM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Connection To BrandMeister Timing/Dropping Out #mmdvm_bridge
 
Top shows one instance of MB running if that is the right place to look?



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-------- Original message --------
From: Steve N4IRS <szingman@...>
Date: 7/30/19 19:40 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Connection To BrandMeister Timing/Dropping Out #mmdvm_bridge

If I had to guess I would say you might have 2 instances of MB running.

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From: main@... <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of Chris K7AZ via Groups.Io <kilo7alphazulu@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:28:25 PM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io>
Subject: [DVSwitch] Connection To BrandMeister Timing/Dropping Out #mmdvm_bridge
 
Sorry for the dumb question:

Curious if getting reoccurring time/drop out messages on MMDVM_Bridge is normal?
Seems to happen over a 2 minute period.   
W: 2019-07-31 02:20:49.689 DMR, Login to the master has failed, retrying login ...
E: 2019-07-31 02:21:49.687 DMR, Connection to the master has timed out, retrying connection
M: 2019-07-31 02:21:49.688 DMR, Closing DMR Network
M: 2019-07-31 02:21:49.688 DMR, Opening DMR Network
D: 2019-07-31 02:21:59.727 DMR, Sending authorisation
D: 2019-07-31 02:21:59.753 DMR, Sending configuration
M: 2019-07-31 02:21:59.784 DMR, Logged into the master successfully
W: 2019-07-31 02:22:49.820 DMR, Login to the master has failed, retrying login ...

Anyone else seeing this occur?  Associated BrandMeister hotspot page appears normal.

Thanks,
Chris K7AZ 

 
Re: Wires-X options

Bob kc2cwt
 

Gentleman This is not the form for this information.
Can we please keep it to the subject matter

Thank you and have a great day



KC2CWT
Bob Schneider
kc2cwt@...
(914)497-5502


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bretzman <robertbretzman@...>
To: main@dvswitch.groups.io
Sent: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Wires-X options

Steve, so you have seen all the e-mails and text messages and heard all the recordings sent to me ?
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:44 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Pleas don't assume you are aware of what I know. I stand by my statement.

On 7/31/2019 12:42 PM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Things have improved. We have a great growing network. Maybe you would think differently if what they did happened to you. And you only know a small part of it.
I am not going there because I am the better man. I am not the only one that feels this way.
Have a great day and thanks for your input
73
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:38 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Well,
Your statement is untrue. BM does share some things. Just not everything someone might want.

Being a professional victim does no one any good. Get over your hurt feelings and try to be the bigger man. Maybe, just maybe if you stop complaining about how BM "mistreated" you, things would improve. I have been a HAM for 50 years and have seen this BS come and go. Years from now, no one will care who wronged who.

Steve N4IRS

On 7/31/2019 12:34 PM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Steve, Did I lie ? was I misleading ? I asked A simple question and to end it that
That is very Anti Amateur radio and human ethics.
73
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:29 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Robert,
What do you expect him to say when you say things like "BM will not share anything" I am no big fan of BM and I really don't expect them to share anything having to do with reverse engineering. Simply put, very few people have access to that information and the Master server owners do not have access.

I am reopening this thread, but I will delete messages from and moderate ANYONE I feel is attacking another user.

Steve N4IRS

On 7/31/2019 12:21 PM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Typical response. never ceases to amaze me. lol
Robert




On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:17 PM Corey Dean N3FE <n3fe@...> wrote:
I do not have access to it plane and simple.  You want it?  Go ask Artem.  I am not discussing this with you any further.

Corey


On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:11 PM Robert Bretzman <robertbretzman@...> wrote:
What does having a NDA have to do with the reversed engineered HRI 200 software for the wires X mode ?
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:03 PM Corey Dean N3FE <n3fe@...> wrote:
We can’t.  Bm has ipsc build in and you must have an nda with motorola to be able to even work with it.  If any of that code is embedded into other pieces, which it is, it can’t be shared.  Same goes with the cbridge code.  Pretty straight forward.

Corey n3fe

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:57 AM Robert Bretzman <robertbretzman@...> wrote:
Skyler, BM will not share anything
73
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:53 AM Skyler Fennell <electricity440@...> wrote:
Thanks for the replies. 

Before I ask BM, has anybody already reached out to see if they would  provide a copy of their Wires-x program?

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 9:04 AM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
"Is this wires-x to DMR code public, I can't find it anywhere. Is BM open source? Is there any other way to cross-link to Wires-X without using an RF link or going through BM? "

On 7/31/2019 11:02 AM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Skyler, You can do it with a RF bridge. I do it on the TGIF network and works great. If you like you can e-mail me at robertbretzman@...  I will be happy to share my information.
73
Robert
K4WZV
TGIF Admin



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:48 AM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:


On 7/31/2019 10:44 AM, Skyler Fennell wrote:
My understanding is that BrandMeister reverse engineered the Wires-X protocol so we can connect to wires-x nodes through their system. 
Correct
Is this wires-x to DMR code public, I can't find it anywhere. Is BM open source? Is there any other way to cross-link to Wires-X without using an RF link or going through BM?
No, the reverse code is not public. No, BM is not open source. I do not know of a way to connect to Wires-X.

Steve
 





Re: Wires-X options

Robert Bretzman
 

Steve, so you have seen all the e-mails and text messages and heard all the recordings sent to me ?
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:44 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Pleas don't assume you are aware of what I know. I stand by my statement.

On 7/31/2019 12:42 PM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Things have improved. We have a great growing network. Maybe you would think differently if what they did happened to you. And you only know a small part of it.
I am not going there because I am the better man. I am not the only one that feels this way.
Have a great day and thanks for your input
73
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:38 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Well,
Your statement is untrue. BM does share some things. Just not everything someone might want.

Being a professional victim does no one any good. Get over your hurt feelings and try to be the bigger man. Maybe, just maybe if you stop complaining about how BM "mistreated" you, things would improve. I have been a HAM for 50 years and have seen this BS come and go. Years from now, no one will care who wronged who.

Steve N4IRS

On 7/31/2019 12:34 PM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Steve, Did I lie ? was I misleading ? I asked A simple question and to end it that
That is very Anti Amateur radio and human ethics.
73
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:29 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Robert,
What do you expect him to say when you say things like "BM will not share anything" I am no big fan of BM and I really don't expect them to share anything having to do with reverse engineering. Simply put, very few people have access to that information and the Master server owners do not have access.

I am reopening this thread, but I will delete messages from and moderate ANYONE I feel is attacking another user.

Steve N4IRS

On 7/31/2019 12:21 PM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Typical response. never ceases to amaze me. lol
Robert




On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:17 PM Corey Dean N3FE <n3fe@...> wrote:
I do not have access to it plane and simple.  You want it?  Go ask Artem.  I am not discussing this with you any further.

Corey


On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:11 PM Robert Bretzman <robertbretzman@...> wrote:
What does having a NDA have to do with the reversed engineered HRI 200 software for the wires X mode ?
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:03 PM Corey Dean N3FE <n3fe@...> wrote:
We can’t.  Bm has ipsc build in and you must have an nda with motorola to be able to even work with it.  If any of that code is embedded into other pieces, which it is, it can’t be shared.  Same goes with the cbridge code.  Pretty straight forward.

Corey n3fe

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:57 AM Robert Bretzman <robertbretzman@...> wrote:
Skyler, BM will not share anything
73
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:53 AM Skyler Fennell <electricity440@...> wrote:
Thanks for the replies. 

Before I ask BM, has anybody already reached out to see if they would  provide a copy of their Wires-x program?

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 9:04 AM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
"Is this wires-x to DMR code public, I can't find it anywhere. Is BM open source? Is there any other way to cross-link to Wires-X without using an RF link or going through BM? "

On 7/31/2019 11:02 AM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Skyler, You can do it with a RF bridge. I do it on the TGIF network and works great. If you like you can e-mail me at robertbretzman@...  I will be happy to share my information.
73
Robert
K4WZV
TGIF Admin



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:48 AM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:


On 7/31/2019 10:44 AM, Skyler Fennell wrote:
My understanding is that BrandMeister reverse engineered the Wires-X protocol so we can connect to wires-x nodes through their system. 
Correct
Is this wires-x to DMR code public, I can't find it anywhere. Is BM open source? Is there any other way to cross-link to Wires-X without using an RF link or going through BM?
No, the reverse code is not public. No, BM is not open source. I do not know of a way to connect to Wires-X.

Steve
 





Re: Wires-X options

Steve N4IRS
 

Pleas don't assume you are aware of what I know. I stand by my statement.

On 7/31/2019 12:42 PM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Things have improved. We have a great growing network. Maybe you would think differently if what they did happened to you. And you only know a small part of it.
I am not going there because I am the better man. I am not the only one that feels this way.
Have a great day and thanks for your input
73
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:38 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Well,
Your statement is untrue. BM does share some things. Just not everything someone might want.

Being a professional victim does no one any good. Get over your hurt feelings and try to be the bigger man. Maybe, just maybe if you stop complaining about how BM "mistreated" you, things would improve. I have been a HAM for 50 years and have seen this BS come and go. Years from now, no one will care who wronged who.

Steve N4IRS

On 7/31/2019 12:34 PM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Steve, Did I lie ? was I misleading ? I asked A simple question and to end it that
That is very Anti Amateur radio and human ethics.
73
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:29 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Robert,
What do you expect him to say when you say things like "BM will not share anything" I am no big fan of BM and I really don't expect them to share anything having to do with reverse engineering. Simply put, very few people have access to that information and the Master server owners do not have access.

I am reopening this thread, but I will delete messages from and moderate ANYONE I feel is attacking another user.

Steve N4IRS

On 7/31/2019 12:21 PM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Typical response. never ceases to amaze me. lol
Robert




On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:17 PM Corey Dean N3FE <n3fe@...> wrote:
I do not have access to it plane and simple.  You want it?  Go ask Artem.  I am not discussing this with you any further.

Corey


On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:11 PM Robert Bretzman <robertbretzman@...> wrote:
What does having a NDA have to do with the reversed engineered HRI 200 software for the wires X mode ?
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:03 PM Corey Dean N3FE <n3fe@...> wrote:
We can’t.  Bm has ipsc build in and you must have an nda with motorola to be able to even work with it.  If any of that code is embedded into other pieces, which it is, it can’t be shared.  Same goes with the cbridge code.  Pretty straight forward.

Corey n3fe

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:57 AM Robert Bretzman <robertbretzman@...> wrote:
Skyler, BM will not share anything
73
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:53 AM Skyler Fennell <electricity440@...> wrote:
Thanks for the replies. 

Before I ask BM, has anybody already reached out to see if they would  provide a copy of their Wires-x program?

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 9:04 AM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
"Is this wires-x to DMR code public, I can't find it anywhere. Is BM open source? Is there any other way to cross-link to Wires-X without using an RF link or going through BM? "

On 7/31/2019 11:02 AM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Skyler, You can do it with a RF bridge. I do it on the TGIF network and works great. If you like you can e-mail me at robertbretzman@...  I will be happy to share my information.
73
Robert
K4WZV
TGIF Admin



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:48 AM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:


On 7/31/2019 10:44 AM, Skyler Fennell wrote:
My understanding is that BrandMeister reverse engineered the Wires-X protocol so we can connect to wires-x nodes through their system. 
Correct
Is this wires-x to DMR code public, I can't find it anywhere. Is BM open source? Is there any other way to cross-link to Wires-X without using an RF link or going through BM?
No, the reverse code is not public. No, BM is not open source. I do not know of a way to connect to Wires-X.

Steve
 





Re: Wires-X options

Robert Bretzman
 

Things have improved. We have a great growing network. Maybe you would think differently if what they did happened to you. And you only know a small part of it.
I am not going there because I am the better man. I am not the only one that feels this way.
Have a great day and thanks for your input
73
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:38 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Well,
Your statement is untrue. BM does share some things. Just not everything someone might want.

Being a professional victim does no one any good. Get over your hurt feelings and try to be the bigger man. Maybe, just maybe if you stop complaining about how BM "mistreated" you, things would improve. I have been a HAM for 50 years and have seen this BS come and go. Years from now, no one will care who wronged who.

Steve N4IRS

On 7/31/2019 12:34 PM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Steve, Did I lie ? was I misleading ? I asked A simple question and to end it that
That is very Anti Amateur radio and human ethics.
73
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:29 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Robert,
What do you expect him to say when you say things like "BM will not share anything" I am no big fan of BM and I really don't expect them to share anything having to do with reverse engineering. Simply put, very few people have access to that information and the Master server owners do not have access.

I am reopening this thread, but I will delete messages from and moderate ANYONE I feel is attacking another user.

Steve N4IRS

On 7/31/2019 12:21 PM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Typical response. never ceases to amaze me. lol
Robert




On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:17 PM Corey Dean N3FE <n3fe@...> wrote:
I do not have access to it plane and simple.  You want it?  Go ask Artem.  I am not discussing this with you any further.

Corey


On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:11 PM Robert Bretzman <robertbretzman@...> wrote:
What does having a NDA have to do with the reversed engineered HRI 200 software for the wires X mode ?
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:03 PM Corey Dean N3FE <n3fe@...> wrote:
We can’t.  Bm has ipsc build in and you must have an nda with motorola to be able to even work with it.  If any of that code is embedded into other pieces, which it is, it can’t be shared.  Same goes with the cbridge code.  Pretty straight forward.

Corey n3fe

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:57 AM Robert Bretzman <robertbretzman@...> wrote:
Skyler, BM will not share anything
73
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:53 AM Skyler Fennell <electricity440@...> wrote:
Thanks for the replies. 

Before I ask BM, has anybody already reached out to see if they would  provide a copy of their Wires-x program?

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 9:04 AM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
"Is this wires-x to DMR code public, I can't find it anywhere. Is BM open source? Is there any other way to cross-link to Wires-X without using an RF link or going through BM? "

On 7/31/2019 11:02 AM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Skyler, You can do it with a RF bridge. I do it on the TGIF network and works great. If you like you can e-mail me at robertbretzman@...  I will be happy to share my information.
73
Robert
K4WZV
TGIF Admin



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:48 AM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:


On 7/31/2019 10:44 AM, Skyler Fennell wrote:
My understanding is that BrandMeister reverse engineered the Wires-X protocol so we can connect to wires-x nodes through their system. 
Correct
Is this wires-x to DMR code public, I can't find it anywhere. Is BM open source? Is there any other way to cross-link to Wires-X without using an RF link or going through BM?
No, the reverse code is not public. No, BM is not open source. I do not know of a way to connect to Wires-X.

Steve
 




Re: Wires-X options

Steve N4IRS
 

Well,
Your statement is untrue. BM does share some things. Just not everything someone might want.

Being a professional victim does no one any good. Get over your hurt feelings and try to be the bigger man. Maybe, just maybe if you stop complaining about how BM "mistreated" you, things would improve. I have been a HAM for 50 years and have seen this BS come and go. Years from now, no one will care who wronged who.

Steve N4IRS

On 7/31/2019 12:34 PM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Steve, Did I lie ? was I misleading ? I asked A simple question and to end it that
That is very Anti Amateur radio and human ethics.
73
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:29 PM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
Robert,
What do you expect him to say when you say things like "BM will not share anything" I am no big fan of BM and I really don't expect them to share anything having to do with reverse engineering. Simply put, very few people have access to that information and the Master server owners do not have access.

I am reopening this thread, but I will delete messages from and moderate ANYONE I feel is attacking another user.

Steve N4IRS

On 7/31/2019 12:21 PM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Typical response. never ceases to amaze me. lol
Robert




On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:17 PM Corey Dean N3FE <n3fe@...> wrote:
I do not have access to it plane and simple.  You want it?  Go ask Artem.  I am not discussing this with you any further.

Corey


On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:11 PM Robert Bretzman <robertbretzman@...> wrote:
What does having a NDA have to do with the reversed engineered HRI 200 software for the wires X mode ?
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:03 PM Corey Dean N3FE <n3fe@...> wrote:
We can’t.  Bm has ipsc build in and you must have an nda with motorola to be able to even work with it.  If any of that code is embedded into other pieces, which it is, it can’t be shared.  Same goes with the cbridge code.  Pretty straight forward.

Corey n3fe

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:57 AM Robert Bretzman <robertbretzman@...> wrote:
Skyler, BM will not share anything
73
Robert



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:53 AM Skyler Fennell <electricity440@...> wrote:
Thanks for the replies. 

Before I ask BM, has anybody already reached out to see if they would  provide a copy of their Wires-x program?

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 9:04 AM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
"Is this wires-x to DMR code public, I can't find it anywhere. Is BM open source? Is there any other way to cross-link to Wires-X without using an RF link or going through BM? "

On 7/31/2019 11:02 AM, Robert Bretzman wrote:
Skyler, You can do it with a RF bridge. I do it on the TGIF network and works great. If you like you can e-mail me at robertbretzman@...  I will be happy to share my information.
73
Robert
K4WZV
TGIF Admin



On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:48 AM Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:


On 7/31/2019 10:44 AM, Skyler Fennell wrote:
My understanding is that BrandMeister reverse engineered the Wires-X protocol so we can connect to wires-x nodes through their system. 
Correct
Is this wires-x to DMR code public, I can't find it anywhere. Is BM open source? Is there any other way to cross-link to Wires-X without using an RF link or going through BM?
No, the reverse code is not public. No, BM is not open source. I do not know of a way to connect to Wires-X.

Steve
 




Re: Wires-X options

Steve KC1AWV
 

Snide remarks to an accepted answer by a knowledgeable person isn't very friendly, either. That's the reason I locked the topic.

Just my two cents.

Steve KC1AWV
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