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Re: MMDVM to ASL bridge #mmdvm_bridge

john.brazel225@...
 

JJ,

Thanks for that. I’ll be back at the office in the morning and will give that a try. 


Re: MMDVM to ASL bridge #mmdvm_bridge

JJ Cummings
 

John..

You need to change the gain type (if you havn't) from the default to AUDIO_USE_GAIN.. then the changes will work, make big changes at first and smaller as you get closer to an acceptable level.  You'll need to restart the Analog_Bridge process every time that you make a change to test.

aslAudio = AUDIO_USE_GAIN        ; Audio to ASL (AUDIO_UNITY, AUDIO_USE_AGC, AUDIO_USE_GAIN)
agcGain = 1.65                   ; Gain (in db) of the AGC filter
dmrAudio = AUDIO_USE_GAIN         ; Audio from ASL (AUDIO_UNITY, AUDIO_GAIN, AUDIO_BPF)
dmrGain = 0.31                  ; Gain factor of audio from ASL (0.0-1.0)


On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 9:06 PM <john.brazel225@...> wrote:
Steve,

Thays where I run into the issue of it not changing. I can alter those settings and the end result is still the same. The DMR side being way overdriven when there is traffic coming from asl. I have tried multiple time, with numerous settings, and even tried reboots after making changes. Still poor audio quality on the DMR side. 


Re: MMDVM to ASL bridge #mmdvm_bridge

john.brazel225@...
 

Steve,

Thays where I run into the issue of it not changing. I can alter those settings and the end result is still the same. The DMR side being way overdriven when there is traffic coming from asl. I have tried multiple time, with numerous settings, and even tried reboots after making changes. Still poor audio quality on the DMR side. 


Re: MMDVM to ASL bridge #mmdvm_bridge

Steve N4IRS
 

John,
In Analog_Bridge.ini see the [USRP] stanzas
tlvAudio = AUDIO_USE_GAIN
tlvGain = 0.35                          ; Gain factor of audio from ASL (0.0-1.0)

This should reduce the audio from ASL to DMR

73, Steve N4IRS

On 4/8/20 9:19 PM, john.brazel225@... wrote:
I’m running ASL with mmdvm bridge installed. I have everything working pretty good, however, the audio level adjustments don’t seem to be helping me. Audio from DMR to asl (echolink) seems to be great, but audio from asl (echolink) to DMR seems to be rather awful. It’s way too hot going out to DMR. Any ideas on how to possibly lower the audio? As stated above, the audio setting doesn’t seem to make any difference at all. Heck, I think I’ve even tried negative amounts, and still get the same result. Any help?


MMDVM to ASL bridge #mmdvm_bridge

john.brazel225@...
 

I’m running ASL with mmdvm bridge installed. I have everything working pretty good, however, the audio level adjustments don’t seem to be helping me. Audio from DMR to asl (echolink) seems to be great, but audio from asl (echolink) to DMR seems to be rather awful. It’s way too hot going out to DMR. Any ideas on how to possibly lower the audio? As stated above, the audio setting doesn’t seem to make any difference at all. Heck, I think I’ve even tried negative amounts, and still get the same result. Any help?


Re: Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #mmdvm_bridge #hblink #analog_bridge

Brad N8PC
 

YES I am running Allstar on a Pi 4 now.

On 4/7/2020 6:38 AM, Paul on6dp wrote:

Hi,

I would like install Allstarlink on a Raspberry Pi4.

Is it possible now ?

If yes, which image to use .

Thanks 73

 

Paul DELMELLE – ON6DP / OP0P

E-mail:  on6dp@...

Visit also our UBA Website on :www.uba.be

 

De : main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> De la part de Jeff Lehman, N8ACL via groups.io
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Objet : Re: [DVSwitch] Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #analog_bridge #mmdvm_bridge #hblink

 

Ah just learned something new. I new that apt wouldn’t load it so I assumed that they were built for Debian based systems and had to be built from source. 

 

So there you go. I would still dump hamvoip and go with a clean install though on raspbian. You will know much better how everything works and will be easier to do. 

 



On Apr 5, 2020, at 17:10, Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:

 Actually, the DVSwitch binaries will work on HAMVOIP but the apt packages will not install on ARCH. The packages have to be pulled apart and the pieces installed manually. That being said, the AllStar side of the bridge is simple (chan_usrp) and needs to be pointed at Analog_Bridge. It does not matter want that target machine IP is. (127.0.0.1 or 192.168.1.111)

Steve N4IRS

On 4/5/20 4:54 PM, Jeff Lehman, N8ACL via groups.io wrote:

And finally the answer comes out. Hamvoip uses arch linux as its base and none of the dvswitch software will work on arch. It has been built for the Debian based systems like raspbian, dwbian and ubuntu. You will not get this to work without rebuilding everything from source code. 

 

The only other option is to start from a clean raspbian install and install allstar and the dvswitch components that way, not using the hamvoip image. 

 

That is how myself and many many others use allstar and dvswitch bridges. Hamvoip is ok to get started with but customization is very difficult. It’s not hard to install allstar and everything on raspbian. Again just follow the directions. 



On Apr 5, 2020, at 16:38, Peter M0NWI <peter-martin@...> wrote:

 Why can't you just start with a standard Debian / Raspbian, dump the Arch custom build and add the extras too it instead then?

 

73,

Peter

 


From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of af5xp via groups.io <af5xp@...>
Sent: 05 April 2020 21:31
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #analog_bridge #mmdvm_bridge #hblink

 

Steve, 

           It's hard to work with os on a pi with ARM that Hamvoip all-star uses that nothing installs like regular vers of Linux do. All most everything has to be manually installed, piece by piece. That's why I have/use a separate Linux machine for the other stuff.   

 



Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #mmdvm_bridge #hblink #analog_bridge

Paul on6dp
 

Hi,

I would like install Allstarlink on a Raspberry Pi4.

Is it possible now ?

If yes, which image to use .

Thanks 73

 

Paul DELMELLE – ON6DP / OP0P

E-mail:  on6dp@...

Visit also our UBA Website on :www.uba.be

 

De : main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> De la part de Jeff Lehman, N8ACL via groups.io
Envoyé : dimanche 23:19
À : main@dvswitch.groups.io
Objet : Re: [DVSwitch] Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #analog_bridge #mmdvm_bridge #hblink

 

Ah just learned something new. I new that apt wouldn’t load it so I assumed that they were built for Debian based systems and had to be built from source. 

 

So there you go. I would still dump hamvoip and go with a clean install though on raspbian. You will know much better how everything works and will be easier to do. 

 



On Apr 5, 2020, at 17:10, Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:

 Actually, the DVSwitch binaries will work on HAMVOIP but the apt packages will not install on ARCH. The packages have to be pulled apart and the pieces installed manually. That being said, the AllStar side of the bridge is simple (chan_usrp) and needs to be pointed at Analog_Bridge. It does not matter want that target machine IP is. (127.0.0.1 or 192.168.1.111)

Steve N4IRS

On 4/5/20 4:54 PM, Jeff Lehman, N8ACL via groups.io wrote:

And finally the answer comes out. Hamvoip uses arch linux as its base and none of the dvswitch software will work on arch. It has been built for the Debian based systems like raspbian, dwbian and ubuntu. You will not get this to work without rebuilding everything from source code. 

 

The only other option is to start from a clean raspbian install and install allstar and the dvswitch components that way, not using the hamvoip image. 

 

That is how myself and many many others use allstar and dvswitch bridges. Hamvoip is ok to get started with but customization is very difficult. It’s not hard to install allstar and everything on raspbian. Again just follow the directions. 



On Apr 5, 2020, at 16:38, Peter M0NWI <peter-martin@...> wrote:

 Why can't you just start with a standard Debian / Raspbian, dump the Arch custom build and add the extras too it instead then?

 

73,

Peter

 


From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of af5xp via groups.io <af5xp@...>
Sent: 05 April 2020 21:31
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #analog_bridge #mmdvm_bridge #hblink

 

Steve, 

           It's hard to work with os on a pi with ARM that Hamvoip all-star uses that nothing installs like regular vers of Linux do. All most everything has to be manually installed, piece by piece. That's why I have/use a separate Linux machine for the other stuff.   

 


Re: HBlink to Wires X Node

 

Openspot 2 wires-x to dmr. Will not work wires-x to ysf.


From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of Paul on6dp <on6dp@...>
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 5:53:05 PM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] HBlink to Wires X Node
 
Since last publication, anybody has found a solution to bridge Wires-X with DMR witout BM and APRS ?
Have a HBLINK server and would like like Wires-X Romm
73 Paul, ON6DP


Re: HBlink to Wires X Node

Paul on6dp
 

Since last publication, anybody has found a solution to bridge Wires-X with DMR witout BM and APRS ?
Have a HBLINK server and would like like Wires-X Romm
73 Paul, ON6DP


Re: Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #mmdvm_bridge #hblink #analog_bridge

Brad N8PC
 

I hate to disagree with you but YES it does run on ARCH Linux with HAMVOIP software. Try access DMR TG314651, Allstar 45743, Echolink 275408 or even better yet check out my dashboard and watch it work. N8PC Repeater . I run Archlinux with HAMVOIP software on a raspberry Pi 4 with 4gig Memory. I never recompiled any copy to run on it.

73's Brad N8PC

On 4/5/2020 4:54 PM, Jeff Lehman, N8ACL via groups.io wrote:
And finally the answer comes out. Hamvoip uses arch linux as its base and none of the dvswitch software will work on arch. It has been built for the Debian based systems like raspbian, dwbian and ubuntu. You will not get this to work without rebuilding everything from source code. 

The only other option is to start from a clean raspbian install and install allstar and the dvswitch components that way, not using the hamvoip image. 

That is how myself and many many others use allstar and dvswitch bridges. Hamvoip is ok to get started with but customization is very difficult. It’s not hard to install allstar and everything on raspbian. Again just follow the directions. 


On Apr 5, 2020, at 16:38, Peter M0NWI <peter-martin@...> wrote:

 Why can't you just start with a standard Debian / Raspbian, dump the Arch custom build and add the extras too it instead then?

73,
Peter


From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of af5xp via groups.io <af5xp@...>
Sent: 05 April 2020 21:31
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #analog_bridge #mmdvm_bridge #hblink
 
Steve, 

           It's hard to work with os on a pi with ARM that Hamvoip all-star uses that nothing installs like regular vers of Linux do. All most everything has to be manually installed, piece by piece. That's why I have/use a separate Linux machine for the other stuff.   


Re: Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #mmdvm_bridge #hblink #analog_bridge

Christopher AF5XP
 

Steve, 

            Ok, that's very helpful. I should have stated ARCH instead of using ARM, sorry on my part. I will try to install on my Debian machine and have it point to the IP of the all-star node after I make it to that point.


Re: Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #mmdvm_bridge #hblink #analog_bridge

Jeff Lehman, N8ACL
 

Ah just learned something new. I new that apt wouldn’t load it so I assumed that they were built for Debian based systems and had to be built from source. 

So there you go. I would still dump hamvoip and go with a clean install though on raspbian. You will know much better how everything works and will be easier to do. 


On Apr 5, 2020, at 17:10, Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:

 Actually, the DVSwitch binaries will work on HAMVOIP but the apt packages will not install on ARCH. The packages have to be pulled apart and the pieces installed manually. That being said, the AllStar side of the bridge is simple (chan_usrp) and needs to be pointed at Analog_Bridge. It does not matter want that target machine IP is. (127.0.0.1 or 192.168.1.111)

Steve N4IRS

On 4/5/20 4:54 PM, Jeff Lehman, N8ACL via groups.io wrote:
And finally the answer comes out. Hamvoip uses arch linux as its base and none of the dvswitch software will work on arch. It has been built for the Debian based systems like raspbian, dwbian and ubuntu. You will not get this to work without rebuilding everything from source code. 

The only other option is to start from a clean raspbian install and install allstar and the dvswitch components that way, not using the hamvoip image. 

That is how myself and many many others use allstar and dvswitch bridges. Hamvoip is ok to get started with but customization is very difficult. It’s not hard to install allstar and everything on raspbian. Again just follow the directions. 


On Apr 5, 2020, at 16:38, Peter M0NWI <peter-martin@...> wrote:

 Why can't you just start with a standard Debian / Raspbian, dump the Arch custom build and add the extras too it instead then?

73,
Peter


From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of af5xp via groups.io <af5xp@...>
Sent: 05 April 2020 21:31
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #analog_bridge #mmdvm_bridge #hblink
 
Steve, 

           It's hard to work with os on a pi with ARM that Hamvoip all-star uses that nothing installs like regular vers of Linux do. All most everything has to be manually installed, piece by piece. That's why I have/use a separate Linux machine for the other stuff.   


Re: Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #mmdvm_bridge #hblink #analog_bridge

Steve N4IRS
 

Actually, the DVSwitch binaries will work on HAMVOIP but the apt packages will not install on ARCH. The packages have to be pulled apart and the pieces installed manually. That being said, the AllStar side of the bridge is simple (chan_usrp) and needs to be pointed at Analog_Bridge. It does not matter want that target machine IP is. (127.0.0.1 or 192.168.1.111)

Steve N4IRS

On 4/5/20 4:54 PM, Jeff Lehman, N8ACL via groups.io wrote:
And finally the answer comes out. Hamvoip uses arch linux as its base and none of the dvswitch software will work on arch. It has been built for the Debian based systems like raspbian, dwbian and ubuntu. You will not get this to work without rebuilding everything from source code. 

The only other option is to start from a clean raspbian install and install allstar and the dvswitch components that way, not using the hamvoip image. 

That is how myself and many many others use allstar and dvswitch bridges. Hamvoip is ok to get started with but customization is very difficult. It’s not hard to install allstar and everything on raspbian. Again just follow the directions. 


On Apr 5, 2020, at 16:38, Peter M0NWI <peter-martin@...> wrote:

 Why can't you just start with a standard Debian / Raspbian, dump the Arch custom build and add the extras too it instead then?

73,
Peter


From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of af5xp via groups.io <af5xp@...>
Sent: 05 April 2020 21:31
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #analog_bridge #mmdvm_bridge #hblink
 
Steve, 

           It's hard to work with os on a pi with ARM that Hamvoip all-star uses that nothing installs like regular vers of Linux do. All most everything has to be manually installed, piece by piece. That's why I have/use a separate Linux machine for the other stuff.   


Re: Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #mmdvm_bridge #hblink #analog_bridge

Jeff Lehman, N8ACL
 

And finally the answer comes out. Hamvoip uses arch linux as its base and none of the dvswitch software will work on arch. It has been built for the Debian based systems like raspbian, dwbian and ubuntu. You will not get this to work without rebuilding everything from source code. 

The only other option is to start from a clean raspbian install and install allstar and the dvswitch components that way, not using the hamvoip image. 

That is how myself and many many others use allstar and dvswitch bridges. Hamvoip is ok to get started with but customization is very difficult. It’s not hard to install allstar and everything on raspbian. Again just follow the directions. 


On Apr 5, 2020, at 16:38, Peter M0NWI <peter-martin@...> wrote:

 Why can't you just start with a standard Debian / Raspbian, dump the Arch custom build and add the extras too it instead then?

73,
Peter


From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of af5xp via groups.io <af5xp@...>
Sent: 05 April 2020 21:31
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #analog_bridge #mmdvm_bridge #hblink
 
Steve, 

           It's hard to work with os on a pi with ARM that Hamvoip all-star uses that nothing installs like regular vers of Linux do. All most everything has to be manually installed, piece by piece. That's why I have/use a separate Linux machine for the other stuff.   


Re: Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #mmdvm_bridge #hblink #analog_bridge

Peter M0NWI
 

Why can't you just start with a standard Debian / Raspbian, dump the Arch custom build and add the extras too it instead then?

73,
Peter


From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of af5xp via groups.io <af5xp@...>
Sent: 05 April 2020 21:31
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #analog_bridge #mmdvm_bridge #hblink
 
Steve, 

           It's hard to work with os on a pi with ARM that Hamvoip all-star uses that nothing installs like regular vers of Linux do. All most everything has to be manually installed, piece by piece. That's why I have/use a separate Linux machine for the other stuff.   


Re: Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #mmdvm_bridge #hblink #analog_bridge

Christopher AF5XP
 

Steve, 

       I'll either figure out how to get it all working or have a big screwed up mess going haywire.  


Re: Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #mmdvm_bridge #hblink #analog_bridge

Christopher AF5XP
 

Steve, 

           It's hard to work with os on a pi with ARM that Hamvoip all-star uses that nothing installs like regular vers of Linux do. All most everything has to be manually installed, piece by piece. That's why I have/use a separate Linux machine for the other stuff.   


Re: Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #mmdvm_bridge #hblink #analog_bridge

Steve N4IRS
 

ARM OS? You mean Linux on ARM?

On 4/5/20 4:15 PM, af5xp via groups.io wrote:
Peter, 

     Thanks for the insight. But I have been Building, coding many of projects in the commercial and ham world in Linux, Mac & windows for about almost 11 years now just not a lot with the Arm OS and as with anything, if you do not know in which order or how each piece of software interact with each other you run into many roadblocks. But thanks for your input. 


Re: Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #mmdvm_bridge #hblink #analog_bridge

Christopher AF5XP
 

Peter, 

     Thanks for the insight. But I have been Building, coding many of projects in the commercial and ham world in Linux, Mac & windows for about almost 11 years now just not a lot with the Arm OS and as with anything, if you do not know in which order or how each piece of software interact with each other you run into many roadblocks. But thanks for your input. 


Re: Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #mmdvm_bridge #hblink #analog_bridge

Peter M0NWI
 

You get this is a technical 'hobby', that we're all here to forward that hobby, Steve and Mike, with Cort too have for me anyway,  given an amazing amount of time and effort, and others have stood up and become supporters around them, to help people!?

You need to have an understanding of computing, Linux os in particular, and ip networking to follow the flow of packets from one modules port to another, before you then add in the DVSwitch modules to allow you to transpose one audio mode to another.

If you've been at this 2 1/2 years then might I suggest that just isn't be for you, and would be better to get someone, another local amateur to do this for you, maybe approach a local club?

Sorry to be hard, but these systems aren't trivial, and need work to build.

73,
Peter


From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of af5xp via groups.io <af5xp@...>
Sent: 05 April 2020 18:16
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Installing & setup of MMDVM_Bridge Analog_bridge to do allstarlink, d-star, dmr, p25 linking. #analog_bridge #mmdvm_bridge #hblink
 
Steve,

      sorry for seeming rough. I'm just getting frustrated with it. Steven installed the dvswitch on my all-star node but never told me how to start the services and get it all up and running on the arm os. All he did is manage to get my P25 reflector running on my Debian machine. I believe he even had me install the ambe server and IrcDDB on the Debian machine as well. I'm just getting a headache after 2.5 years of fighting with it, 

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