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Re: Is there a simple way for Bridging a YSF Reflector to an XLX Reflector (new 2020 Version)

andrew (callsign)
 

I'm also stuck with something similar here. Could anyone with a working connection to an XLX post the relevent parts of their mmdvm bridge.ini file. Owning both a YSF reflector and XLX, I have other links established in the YSF,  I have the correct address entered for connection with the xlx, how does one link to a specific reflector module?  A "working" snapshot of YSF to XLX would benefit greatly.   Thanks. 
Re: Changelog

SP2ONG Waldek
 

Hi Mike,

Can you give an example of how to use it?

Do I then run two Analog_Bridge which supports YSFN and the other YSFW with different TX ports but the same RXport with DVswitch.ini?


On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:26 AM, Mike Zingman - N4IRR wrote:
  • YSF split of narrow and wide TLV export to support transcode.
        • Wide mode YSF packets can now be sent to its own list of transmit ports using TXWidePort
        • This is independent of the narrow transmit ports
        • This allows you to transcode one side of YSF while keeping the other format free from conversion
Re: Conference Bridge

JJ Cummings
 

C4FM didn’t need both - just the reflector, and yes we use Allstar as a hub to allow for more granular control of the modes (it’s easy to disconnect/connect a node) etc...

Sent from the iRoad

On Apr 29, 2020, at 20:21, Jay <jay.n4nqy@...> wrote:

Super, Thanks.  So I do  need both the gateway and reflector for each mode.  One question, i assume you used a separate psuedo node for each mode.  That makes some sense to me.

Back when I started this i was not seeing AllStar as a Hub.  I kept trying to make hb_confbridge work and running into problems.  I need to get more familiar now with the conf file in Allstar.  I have an AllStar node running but it is vanilla and installed by the cookbook.  Shouldn't take much to add a single mode (??).  there is some documentation on getting DMR working, but I may tackle YSF or P25 first.  They are a little less complicated.

Thanks for the link.  That should present me with a project for the next week or two.
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jb   N4NQY

Re: Conference Bridge

Jay
 

Super, Thanks.  So I do  need both the gateway and reflector for each mode.  One question, i assume you used a separate psuedo node for each mode.  That makes some sense to me.

Back when I started this i was not seeing AllStar as a Hub.  I kept trying to make hb_confbridge work and running into problems.  I need to get more familiar now with the conf file in Allstar.  I have an AllStar node running but it is vanilla and installed by the cookbook.  Shouldn't take much to add a single mode (??).  there is some documentation on getting DMR working, but I may tackle YSF or P25 first.  They are a little less complicated.

Thanks for the link.  That should present me with a project for the next week or two.
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jb   N4NQY
Re: Is there a simple way for Bridging a YSF Reflector to an XLX Reflector (new 2020 Version)

Steve N4IRS
 

You can do the same thing with just MMDVM_Bridge. No YSF2DMR required.

On 4/29/20 8:33 PM, TG9AOR wrote:
You may  bridge it via YSF2DMR, point the corresponding networks in their respective stanzas and away it goes. No need to have a MMDVM Bridge or Analog Bridge, if this is like you state in your question, traffic goes straight from YSF to XLX. Be aware that you do need transcoding hardware if wishing to do DSTAR on the reflector and be heard on YSF.

Working example may be found on ysf 36606 (TG9AOR-1) and XLX502C (TG9AOR-M)
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José Roberto Ruíz García Salas
TG9AOR

Re: Is there a simple way for Bridging a YSF Reflector to an XLX Reflector (new 2020 Version)

TG9AOR
 

You may  bridge it via YSF2DMR, point the corresponding networks in their respective stanzas and away it goes. No need to have a MMDVM Bridge or Analog Bridge, if this is like you state in your question, traffic goes straight from YSF to XLX. Be aware that you do need transcoding hardware if wishing to do DSTAR on the reflector and be heard on YSF.

Working example may be found on ysf 36606 (TG9AOR-1) and XLX502C (TG9AOR-M)
--
José Roberto Ruíz García Salas
TG9AOR
Re: Conference Bridge

JJ Cummings
 

Here is a thing I finally put up...

On Apr 29, 2020, at 15:15, Jay <jay.n4nqy@...> wrote:

I know that there are those who have done this already.

I began this quest 2+ years ago to build a server that could "conference" together AllStar, DMR, YSF, P25, NXDN and D-Star users.  I wanted to create this to understand how to do it.  I began to go down the road of hb_confbridge and did not have great success and got sidetracked.  I got DMR and YSF working then ran out of gas.  

I am back on that mission and again, I know others have done it, but what is the best route to go to accomplish to goal.  I need to start back at square one.  Can I get a suggestion or even a Block Diagram of how to get started.  Things like "Do I use Gateway, Reflectors or both and what do they connect to?  I have a decent knowledge of Linux and have been doing Ham Radio Digital since the advent of D-Star and MMDVM.

Is there documentation somewhere or someone who has a picture of what theirs looks like.  Any assistance appreciated.  Happy to take this off of the discussion here, if needed.

Thanks

jb  N4NQY

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jb   N4NQY

Re: D--Star <-> XLXd <-> Allstar How?

Chris - W2CLM <cmaltese@...>
 

Thank you.  I’ll do some further research. 

Chris
Re: D--Star <-> XLXd <-> Allstar How?

Ernie Gm7kbk
 

All the information is available  on this group. Search through the messages. I'm not at my computer  to give you links. My Asl is 50131which links to XLX922 E. This is the CQ-UK room. You can add Dvswitch mobile into the mix. I use Asl as a hub works really well. Sounds good aswell.

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of W2CLM <cmaltese@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 10:48:26 PM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] D--Star <-> XLXd <-> Allstar How?
 
Thank you, Ernie. Can you expand on Ab to Mb?  Just getting started with digital setups on my end. 

Re: D--Star <-> XLXd <-> Allstar How?

W2CLM <cmaltese@...>
 

Thank you, Ernie. Can you expand on Ab to Mb?  Just getting started with digital setups on my end. 
Conference Bridge

Jay
 

I know that there are those who have done this already.

I began this quest 2+ years ago to build a server that could "conference" together AllStar, DMR, YSF, P25, NXDN and D-Star users.  I wanted to create this to understand how to do it.  I began to go down the road of hb_confbridge and did not have great success and got sidetracked.  I got DMR and YSF working then ran out of gas.  

I am back on that mission and again, I know others have done it, but what is the best route to go to accomplish to goal.  I need to start back at square one.  Can I get a suggestion or even a Block Diagram of how to get started.  Things like "Do I use Gateway, Reflectors or both and what do they connect to?  I have a decent knowledge of Linux and have been doing Ham Radio Digital since the advent of D-Star and MMDVM.

Is there documentation somewhere or someone who has a picture of what theirs looks like.  Any assistance appreciated.  Happy to take this off of the discussion here, if needed.

Thanks

jb  N4NQY

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jb   N4NQY
Re: D--Star <-> XLXd <-> Allstar How?

Ernie Gm7kbk
 

Fairly easy to do.
Asl to Ab to Mb to Xlx.
Use this myself.

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of W2CLM <cmaltese@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:12:19 PM
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io>
Subject: [DVSwitch] D--Star <-> XLXd <-> Allstar How?
 
Hello - 

I just stood-up an instance of XLXd that I want to link to a few reflectors.  I also have some friends with no digital access, using only Allstar.  The XLXd is running on Debian 9 hosted on AWS EC2.  The desired result is for me to install - I'm assuming ASL - on the Debian server allowing my D-Star users to talk with Allstar users.  Is this a can do or is it easier to find someone with an ASL node and ask to connect?

-- VY 73 / Chris

D--Star <-> XLXd <-> Allstar How?

W2CLM <cmaltese@...>
 

Hello - 

I just stood-up an instance of XLXd that I want to link to a few reflectors.  I also have some friends with no digital access, using only Allstar.  The XLXd is running on Debian 9 hosted on AWS EC2.  The desired result is for me to install - I'm assuming ASL - on the Debian server allowing my D-Star users to talk with Allstar users.  Is this a can do or is it easier to find someone with an ASL node and ask to connect?

-- VY 73 / Chris
Re: HBLink and DMRLink

Paul on6dp
 

HI,
I would like connect my AllStar Node to HBLINK Server
My ASL Node is #50941 and HBLink Belgium is on 51.75.249.214
How can I do that?
Can you help me ?
73 Paul, ON6DP
Re: Need another set of eyes #mmdvm_bridge

wojtek (voyteck)
 

It fixed itself!
Re: Is there a simple way for Bridging a YSF Reflector to an XLX Reflector (new 2020 Version)

ve6gcd@...
 

Hi Steve,

Yes, I was probably overthinking about the set up.

I assumed the YSF reflector is located on a separate server knowing that the XLX reflector already have C4FM mode. That is why I added YSF Gateway to the diagram. 

73,
Geoffrey 
Re: Is there a simple way for Bridging a YSF Reflector to an XLX Reflector (new 2020 Version)

Steve N4IRS
 

Geoff,
You do not need YSGFateway between YSFReflector and MMDVM_Bridge

Steve

On 4/29/2020 1:58 PM, ve6gcd@... wrote:
Are you referring to an XLX reflector in C4FM mode?

XLX in C4FM mode is not a real YSF reflector. It is internally a DMR engine performing an automatic TLV conversion to C4FM within the same module.

Thus, to bridge this you can use MMDVM Bridge: YSF reflector on one end while bridge to an XLX DMR on the other end. There are two options to set up DMR XLX:

1) DMR Gateway (simplest)
2) HBlink3 (may need some understanding of Python to troubleshoot during installation)

After that, bridge the existing YSF reflector to the XLX DMR using MMDVM_Bridge. URL information of the instructions already provided previously on this thread. Diagrams on how to set this up as shown below.

YSF Reflector to XLX DMR only:

YSF Refector <-> YSFGateway <-> MMDVM Bridge <-> DMR Gateway (or HBlink3) <-> XLX DMR

YSF Reflector to XLX C4FM:

YSF Refector <-> YSFGateway <-> MMDVM Bridge <-> DMR Gateway (or HBlink3) <-> XLX DMR + YSFGateway to port 42000 of XLX reflector of the same module

73,
Geoffrey VE6GCD

Re: Is there a simple way for Bridging a YSF Reflector to an XLX Reflector (new 2020 Version)

ve6gcd@...
 

Are you referring to an XLX reflector in C4FM mode?

XLX in C4FM mode is not a real YSF reflector. It is internally a DMR engine performing an automatic TLV conversion to C4FM within the same module.

Thus, to bridge this you can use MMDVM Bridge: YSF reflector on one end while bridge to an XLX DMR on the other end. There are two options to set up DMR XLX:

1) DMR Gateway (simplest)
2) HBlink3 (may need some understanding of Python to troubleshoot during installation)

After that, bridge the existing YSF reflector to the XLX DMR using MMDVM_Bridge. URL information of the instructions already provided previously on this thread. Diagrams on how to set this up as shown below.

YSF Reflector to XLX DMR only:

YSF Refector <-> YSFGateway <-> MMDVM Bridge <-> DMR Gateway (or HBlink3) <-> XLX DMR

YSF Reflector to XLX C4FM:

YSF Refector <-> YSFGateway <-> MMDVM Bridge <-> DMR Gateway (or HBlink3) <-> XLX DMR + YSFGateway to port 42000 of XLX reflector of the same module

73,
Geoffrey VE6GCD
Re: Is there a simple way for Bridging a YSF Reflector to an XLX Reflector (new 2020 Version)

Steve N4IRS
 

The link is a YSF to DMR bridge. That will get you most of the way there.
Look at MMDVM_Bridge.ini for the info for connecting to XLX rather then BM.

Steve

On 4/29/2020 11:45 AM, Uli wrote:
Thanks Steve, but that does not help very much:
I want to Bridge a YSF Reflector  to an XLX Reflector, not DMR to XLX

I have tried all kinds of suggestions from the forum but neither does work.
How should MMDVM_Bridge.ini and DVSwitch.ini  look like?
Is there anything else I might have overlooked?

Re: Is there a simple way for Bridging a YSF Reflector to an XLX Reflector (new 2020 Version)

Uli
 

Thanks Steve, but that does not help very much:
I want to Bridge a YSF Reflector  to an XLX Reflector, not DMR to XLX

I have tried all kinds of suggestions from the forum but neither does work.
How should MMDVM_Bridge.ini and DVSwitch.ini  look like?
Is there anything else I might have overlooked?
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