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Re: Is this even possible?

Cort N0MJS <n0mjs@...>
 

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On Nov 29, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Peter M0NWI <peter-martin@...> wrote:

Hi Cort,

Fully understand, and wasn't pushing,

Great, because I didn’t think you were :)

just wondering around OpenBridge as a philosophy, but checking the code, it seems that its only implemented in the big networks on slot 1.

Not exactly. OpenBridge allows sending an arbitrary number of call streams simultaneously. There’s no concept of “timeslot” because of that, so they just clear the TS bit in the header…. A cleared TS bit just happens to correspond to TS1. That means the packets are going to look like TS1 and I have to treat them that way, i.e. re-write the TS bit if a call stream is destined for TS2.

In the UK we do international/national on S1 and regional on S2, so it probably won't make difference to my current design.

Again, think of OpenBridge as a server to server protocol that doesn’t have a timeslot.

Can I ask if you or any of the others do anything with DMR data,

So far I’ve not been able to satisfy the group voice to-do list and have enough time to work with subscriber-to subscriber voice or data.

I've been asked about routing GPS, and although I've done some tests with a Moto into bridge.py,on DMRkink with rules for private data, it doesn't seem to route the traffic.

It was never completed and shouldn’t be expected to work as it is.

I maybe doing something wrong, or that its not been fully implemented.

Correct, never even remotely fully implemented.

I'm trying to route this up stream to a DMR+ IPSC2, who do push on these private TG5057 messages to APRS.fi
As I understand it, your radio when configured for GPS, sends the data as a private call to 5057 on whatever routed TG your using.  Again, I'm not sure if private calls are supported either.
Any pointers, or just info as to whether its worth continuing testing would be useful.

Group Voice is the only thing functional.

Thanks
Peter





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Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Is this even possible?
 
To make DMRlink use OpenBridge requires all of the same internals as IPSC_Bridge.py and HB_Bridge.py. OpenBridge is based on the Home-brew Repeater Protocol. It was reasonable to incorporate it into HBlink because of that.

DMRlink is probably going to be #2 now. I just did a LOT of work with HBlink… I can trickle those changes into DMRlink over time, but like all of you, I’m also running a pretty sizable repeater network too. So just remember, I’m doing that AND trying to write the software. So go easy on me guys :)


On Nov 26, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Peter M0NWI <peter-martin@...> wrote:

Hi Cort,

Reference the below, can I ask is OpenBridge not compatible with DMRlink, or just that you've made the decision to not implement?

As you know I've always kept DMRlink as the core routing for the network, linking out using IPSCBridge / HBlink as needed to bring in the odd MMDVM box, and its served me well, as the bulk of my connections are moto IPSC.

I see OpenBridge as a super way to link networks, and would like to try this, at present I have one link per repeater upstream, and bridge the traffic, so OpenBridge would be a good win.

So I'm contemplating, do I move to HBLink as the centre, and use IPSCBridge for the motos to gain the benefits?

Regards
Peter


Cort Buffington
785-865-7206


Re: Strange announcement after each keyup after about a day of running

Chris WB4ULK
 

Yeah,
Steve figured it out.
It’s a timer you have to set up to at least 2500 milliseconds.

I think it is in analogbridge.ini

Anyway, the message was coming from BM saying “Blocked”

It is a loop back detector that is getting tripped. Upping that time keeps it from doing that.

I think the thread got moved over to support. Look in there.

Fixed my prob and no issues since.

Chris
WB4ULK 

On Nov 29, 2018, at 4:57 PM, KM6IRY <casper14209@...> wrote:

Hey there Chris, long time and funny running into you here.

Just setup a bridge here as well and have run into the same thing. Kicking services on and off narrowed it down to being on the MMDVM Bridge side but still not sure where it's coming from. Have you had any advancements on this or does anybody have any info to share?

Vince


Re: Is this even possible?

Peter M0NWI
 

Hi Cort,

Fully understand, and wasn't pushing, just wondering around OpenBridge as a philosophy, but checking the code, it seems that its only implemented in the big networks on slot 1.  In the UK we do international/national on S1 and regional on S2, so it probably won't make difference to my current design.

Can I ask if you or any of the others do anything with DMR data, I've been asked about routing GPS, and although I've done some tests with a Moto into bridge.py,on DMRkink with rules for private data, it doesn't seem to route the traffic.  I maybe doing something wrong, or that its not been fully implemented. I'm trying to route this up stream to a DMR+ IPSC2, who do push on these private TG5057 messages to APRS.fi

As I understand it, your radio when configured for GPS, sends the data as a private call to 5057 on whatever routed TG your using.  Again, I'm not sure if private calls are supported either.

Any pointers, or just info as to whether its worth continuing testing would be useful.

Thanks
Peter





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Sent: 27 November 2018 00:30:46
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Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Is this even possible?
 
To make DMRlink use OpenBridge requires all of the same internals as IPSC_Bridge.py and HB_Bridge.py. OpenBridge is based on the Home-brew Repeater Protocol. It was reasonable to incorporate it into HBlink because of that.

DMRlink is probably going to be #2 now. I just did a LOT of work with HBlink… I can trickle those changes into DMRlink over time, but like all of you, I’m also running a pretty sizable repeater network too. So just remember, I’m doing that AND trying to write the software. So go easy on me guys :)


On Nov 26, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Peter M0NWI <peter-martin@...> wrote:

Hi Cort,

Reference the below, can I ask is OpenBridge not compatible with DMRlink, or just that you've made the decision to not implement?

As you know I've always kept DMRlink as the core routing for the network, linking out using IPSCBridge / HBlink as needed to bring in the odd MMDVM box, and its served me well, as the bulk of my connections are moto IPSC.

I see OpenBridge as a super way to link networks, and would like to try this, at present I have one link per repeater upstream, and bridge the traffic, so OpenBridge would be a good win.

So I'm contemplating, do I move to HBLink as the centre, and use IPSCBridge for the motos to gain the benefits?

Regards
Peter


Tip of the day...

Cort N0MJS <n0mjs@...>
 

Thought I’d share this with you guys in case anyone is interested.

The K0USY group doesn’t use “channel based” linking, we use “contact based”. This is where you talk on the same TGID all of the time, and only use the other TGIDs for in-band signaling to tell confbridge/hb_confbridge to turn things on and off, etc.

This requires a pretty big list of “off” TGIDs be listed in the BRIDGES section of the confbridge_rules file. One of the reasons I left the rules file a python file instead of an intermediate syntax is to allow using actual python code in it as well. Think of this like the SCOM analog controllers where nearly everything is built on macros, as opposed to the ACC style, where everything is an individual command.

To make things easier for myself, I defined a python list of all of the TGIDs that I use on the linked timeslot (I only use one timeslot for linking). One place to keep track of them all – that’s the first line in the paste below.

Then I wrote a function (that’s the block of code that starts with “def”) that takes two lists as arguments. The first list is the big list of TGIDs I just made, and the second is a list of TGIDs I want removed. Because the only TGID I do not want to turn off a linked TGID is the TGID used to turn it on, I put that in the 2nd list. For example:

MARC Worldwide uses TGID 1 to trigger it on. If any other TGID is used (other than 9, where we run voice traffic) I want it to turn back off - in other words, I want the entire list of TGIDs minus TGID 1 to be the turn-off list. With me so far?

Then in the actual BRIDGES data structure, instead of having to copy big long lists of TGIDs and take out the one TGID to turn that bridge on, I insert the function call instead. You see this below as:

'OFF': exclude(K0USY_LINKED, [1])

Instead of

‘OFF’: [2,3,13,91,310,311,3105,3120,3129,3131,3140,31201,31203,31207,98006]

The best part is, that this extra code only runs once when the rules file is imported, so it takes no extra processing at runtime. Well, there it is, tip of the day. I hope it helps someone out there manage their rules file more easily. It sure does help me!

0x49 DE N0MJS


–––-begin paste–––-
K0USY_LINKED = [1,2,3,13,91,310,311,3105,3120,3129,3131,3140,31201,31203,31207,98006]

def exclude(tglist, exlist):
returnlist = tglist
for tgid in exlist:
returnlist = [tg for tg in returnlist if tg != tgid]
return returnlist

BRIDGES = {
'MARC: Worldwide': [
{'SYSTEM': 'K0USY RPTRS', 'TS': 1, 'TGID': 9, 'ACTIVE': False, 'TIMEOUT': LINK_TIME_K0USY, 'TO_TYPE': 'ON', 'ON': [1], 'OFF': exclude(K0USY_LINKED, [1]), 'RESET': [9]},
–––-end paste–––-




Cort Buffington
785-865-7206


Re: Is this even possible?

Cort N0MJS <n0mjs@...>
 

To make DMRlink use OpenBridge requires all of the same internals as IPSC_Bridge.py and HB_Bridge.py. OpenBridge is based on the Home-brew Repeater Protocol. It was reasonable to incorporate it into HBlink because of that.

DMRlink is probably going to be #2 now. I just did a LOT of work with HBlink… I can trickle those changes into DMRlink over time, but like all of you, I’m also running a pretty sizable repeater network too. So just remember, I’m doing that AND trying to write the software. So go easy on me guys :)


On Nov 26, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Peter M0NWI <peter-martin@...> wrote:

Hi Cort,

Reference the below, can I ask is OpenBridge not compatible with DMRlink, or just that you've made the decision to not implement?

As you know I've always kept DMRlink as the core routing for the network, linking out using IPSCBridge / HBlink as needed to bring in the odd MMDVM box, and its served me well, as the bulk of my connections are moto IPSC.

I see OpenBridge as a super way to link networks, and would like to try this, at present I have one link per repeater upstream, and bridge the traffic, so OpenBridge would be a good win.

So I'm contemplating, do I move to HBLink as the centre, and use IPSCBridge for the motos to gain the benefits?

Regards
Peter


Re: Is this even possible?

Peter M0NWI
 

Hi Cort,

Reference the below, can I ask is OpenBridge not compatible with DMRlink, or just that you've made the decision to not implement?

As you know I've always kept DMRlink as the core routing for the network, linking out using IPSCBridge / HBlink as needed to bring in the odd MMDVM box, and its served me well, as the bulk of my connections are moto IPSC.

I see OpenBridge as a super way to link networks, and would like to try this, at present I have one link per repeater upstream, and bridge the traffic, so OpenBridge would be a good win.

So I'm contemplating, do I move to HBLink as the centre, and use IPSCBridge for the motos to gain the benefits?

Regards
Peter


From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of Cort N0MJS via Groups.Io <n0mjs@...>
Sent: 24 November 2018 00:53:38
To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Is this even possible?
 
When I started this, there was DMRlink – MMDVM didn’t yet exist. After I wrote HBlink, I still developed on DMRlink first, and then ported changes to HBlink, but have kept pretty good parity between both of them.

As of now, I’d say the best determining factor would be what kind of repeaters do you have more of? Motorola or MMDVM? That’s the advice I typically give. If you’re predominantly a Motorola operation, then use DMRlink’s confbridge.py as the main hub; if MMDVM, then use hb_confbridge.py.

But this is about to change. Going forward, now that HBlink has OpenBridge support, HBlink will be what gets developed first – and at some point, I may even sunset further development on DMRlink applications (e.g. confbridge.py). Using multiple IPSC connections to a c-Bridge to pick up TGIDs (or multiple HBP connections to Brandmeister, etc.) is cumbersome. OpenBridge allows “server-to-server” type access to Brandmeister, DMR-MARC and DMR+, and that’s my reason for shifting primary development (and there’s about to be quite a bit of it) to HBlink first.

I’d like to see a few improvements in IPSC_Bridge, and hopefully can contribute to them. Even on K0USY Group’s systems, it looks like the future will be trading out our XPR series repeaters for MMDMV-based ones, or putting a “backpack” on each one (SBC running IPSC_Bridge/HB_Bridge) and converting them all to Homebrew at the repeater site. I’ll likely keep one XPR for DMRlink development, but that’s probably it.

0x49 DE N0MJS

P.S. - if anyone is in the market for lightly used (I run the power at 25W on them and NEVER burn up PAs that way) K0USY Group will soon have a number of XPR8300s and XPR8400s available for sale or trade for MTR2000s.

On Nov 23, 2018, at 6:14 PM, Jim Gifford - KD4PPG <jim@...> wrote:

In terms of setting up confbridge, which is preferred to work with, the one in dmrlink or the one in hblink?  Ultimately, I want one of those to be the primary decision maker in the “center” of it all.  With the link to BM being the most number of talkgroups, I’m leaning towards the hblink one as the one to use.

--
Cort Buffington
H: +1-785-813-1501
M: +1-785-865-7206






Re: Installing DVSwitch

Guillermo HK4KM <hk4km@...>
 

Thanks, Steve.  Will do.


Re: Is this even possible?

Jim Gifford - K9AGR
 

Cort,

Thanks for this answer.  I spent the weekend pondering your answer and the implications, and picturing in my head how I should proceed.  At this point, I’m going to stick with hb_confbridge, because of the reasoning you gave, and connect everything else over to that core component.

Thanks,
Jim


On Nov 23, 2018, at 7:53 PM, Cort N0MJS via Groups.Io <n0mjs@...> wrote:

When I started this, there was DMRlink – MMDVM didn’t yet exist. After I wrote HBlink, I still developed on DMRlink first, and then ported changes to HBlink, but have kept pretty good parity between both of them.

As of now, I’d say the best determining factor would be what kind of repeaters do you have more of? Motorola or MMDVM? That’s the advice I typically give. If you’re predominantly a Motorola operation, then use DMRlink’s confbridge.py as the main hub; if MMDVM, then use hb_confbridge.py.

But this is about to change. Going forward, now that HBlink has OpenBridge support, HBlink will be what gets developed first – and at some point, I may even sunset further development on DMRlink applications (e.g. confbridge.py). Using multiple IPSC connections to a c-Bridge to pick up TGIDs (or multiple HBP connections to Brandmeister, etc.) is cumbersome. OpenBridge allows “server-to-server” type access to Brandmeister, DMR-MARC and DMR+, and that’s my reason for shifting primary development (and there’s about to be quite a bit of it) to HBlink first.

I’d like to see a few improvements in IPSC_Bridge, and hopefully can contribute to them. Even on K0USY Group’s systems, it looks like the future will be trading out our XPR series repeaters for MMDMV-based ones, or putting a “backpack” on each one (SBC running IPSC_Bridge/HB_Bridge) and converting them all to Homebrew at the repeater site. I’ll likely keep one XPR for DMRlink development, but that’s probably it.

0x49 DE N0MJS

P.S. - if anyone is in the market for lightly used (I run the power at 25W on them and NEVER burn up PAs that way) K0USY Group will soon have a number of XPR8300s and XPR8400s available for sale or trade for MTR2000s.

On Nov 23, 2018, at 6:14 PM, Jim Gifford - KD4PPG <jim@...> wrote:

In terms of setting up confbridge, which is preferred to work with, the one in dmrlink or the one in hblink?  Ultimately, I want one of those to be the primary decision maker in the “center” of it all.  With the link to BM being the most number of talkgroups, I’m leaning towards the hblink one as the one to use.

--
Cort Buffington
H: +1-785-813-1501
M: +1-785-865-7206







Re: Is this even possible?

Jim Gifford - K9AGR
 

I left this running without tinkering over the weekend, and everything stayed rock solid.  The audio issue disappeared for the most part.  I even updated the MD-9600 to have the same settings for listening to the MMDVM box.  It’s worth noting that the MMDVM “repeater” in this case is a cheap duplex chinaspot that I’m running on my coordinated frequency while I finish building my real MMDVM repeater.  The chinaspot can’t be heard more than 25 feet away, and I haven’t dialed in the frequency with mmdvmcal yet.  I’m still learning how to use my service monitor.  It’s adequate to prove the concept, but not adequate to use for an extended QSO yet.

Watching the pi-star dashboard, I saw very few incidents of any packet loss, and in every case I followed up on, the same loss was reflected in the cBridge, so it was lacking in the source signal.

Even though it goes against my OCD-like nature, I’m ignoring the log files from IPSC_Bridge that say extremely high packet loss, as I suspect it’s a reporting bug, not a real bug.  Every single transmission only shows 3 received out of all the ones transmitted.  I’m assuming packets.

Example (times in UTC):
INFO 2018-11-26 12:22:16,271 Voice Transmission Start on TS 1 and TG 8802 (8802) from 3110063 (3110063)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:22:24,371 Voice Transmission End 8.10 seconds loss rate: 97.78% (3/135)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:22:27,791 Voice Transmission Start on TS 1 and TG 8802 (8802) from 3110037 (3110037)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:22:38,412 Voice Transmission End 10.62 seconds loss rate: 98.31% (3/177)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:22:40,691 Voice Transmission Start on TS 1 and TG 8802 (8802) from 3110063 (3110063)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:22:54,551 Voice Transmission End 13.86 seconds loss rate: 98.70% (3/231)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:23:10,871 Voice Transmission Start on TS 1 and TG 8802 (8802) from 3110037 (3110037)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:23:17,172 Voice Transmission End 6.30 seconds loss rate: 97.14% (3/105)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:23:19,571 Voice Transmission Start on TS 1 and TG 8802 (8802) from 3110063 (3110063)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:23:36,671 Voice Transmission End 17.10 seconds loss rate: 98.95% (3/285)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:23:37,631 Voice Transmission Start on TS 1 and TG 8802 (8802) from 3110037 (3110037)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:23:41,771 Voice Transmission End 4.14 seconds loss rate: 95.65% (3/69)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:26:05,230 Voice Transmission Start on TS 2 and TG 3151 (3151) from 3151152 (3151152)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:26:08,648 Voice Transmission End 3.42 seconds loss rate: 94.74% (3/57)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:51:53,708 Voice Transmission Start on TS 2 and TG 3151 (3151) from 3151584 (3151584)
INFO 2018-11-26 12:51:54,967 Voice Transmission End 1.26 seconds loss rate: 85.71% (3/21)
INFO 2018-11-26 13:07:20,770 Voice Transmission Start on TS 2 and TG 3151 (3151) from 3151406 (3151406)
INFO 2018-11-26 13:07:26,346 Voice Transmission End 5.58 seconds loss rate: 96.77% (3/93)
INFO 2018-11-26 13:26:16,994 Voice Transmission Start on TS 1 and TG 8802 (8802) from 3120699 (3120699)
INFO 2018-11-26 13:26:20,411 Voice Transmission End 3.42 seconds loss rate: 94.74% (3/57)
INFO 2018-11-26 13:30:37,633 Voice Transmission Start on TS 1 and TG 8802 (8802) from 3110037 (3110037)
INFO 2018-11-26 13:30:41,772 Voice Transmission End 4.14 seconds loss rate: 95.65% (3/69)
INFO 2018-11-26 13:31:53,650 Voice Transmission Start on TS 2 and TG 3151 (3151) from 3151090 (3151090)
INFO 2018-11-26 13:31:54,547 Voice Transmission End 0.90 seconds loss rate: 80.00% (3/15)

Now, since it is *always* (3/X), this must be an artifact within the code, not the signal, since I can copy the entire transmission on the radio at the endpoint.  Definitely not enough of an issue to bother tracking down at this point.

This software works great, and the CPU usage stats for my virtual server show it doesn’t even break idle.  I’m ready to start making the setup a little more complex now that I have a feel for how it all works together.

Thank you to everyone that has helped me get to this point.  Reading through the archive of topics was educational, but not as much as actually getting some piece of the system operational.  I especially want to thank Corey for his off-list assistance and helping me understand I wasn’t really ready to do what I was attempting to do, and that I needed to start smaller and work my way up.

Thanks,
Jim

On Nov 23, 2018, at 7:52 PM, Corey Dean N3FE <n3fe@...> wrote:

I have seen that same thing happen when the audio lets are not set correctly.  The 868 and 878 are pretty picky on audio levels.

Corey N3FE

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 7:14 PM Jim Gifford - KD4PPG <jim@...> wrote:
I spent time today going back and forth with Corey, and he has been most helpful.  Since he’s using things not yet intended for general consumption, I’ve decided to hold off until that’s out, and instead focus my attention on simplifying the model so that I can finally get my head around how all the pieces glue together.

I’ve spent quite a lot of time today working with IPSC_Bridge and HB_Bridge, and now have the simplest possible setup I could do.  I’ve passed audio traffic through from end to end in both directions, but have some issues still.

MMDVM Repeater <-> HB_Bridge <-> IPSC_Bridge <-> K4USD cBridge

TS1: TG8802
TS2 TG3151

So far, it all looks good, but I have a few concerns.  Earlier today, I was having a QSO over 8802 via the MMDVM repeater, when it stopped making it through the pipeline all the way to K4USD.  I wasn’t able to determine where it was failing, and switched to a direct RF link to a known operational repeater to finish the QSO.

I eventually decided it must’ve been an errant talkgroup from the cBridge, and sent the list of talkgroups I’ve been receiving unsolicited to the cBridge maintainer, and he fixed that when he got home tonight.  So now I’m sitting down and testing again.

Just a couple of minutes ago, I heard a ham call out on the 8802 talkgroup via the radio connected to the known good repeater (40+ miles away), but the HT listening to the benchtop repeater had no audio output at all.  Everything else looked normal, the pi-star dashboard showed the contact, that TX was occurring, etc.  The AnyTone 878 showed the contact information, talkgroup, etc, and updated the last call info after he finished talking.

Here’s the output from IPSC_Bridge:

INFO 2018-11-23 23:54:31,694 Voice Transmission Start on TS 1 and TG 8802 (8802) from 3121792 (3121792)
INFO 2018-11-23 23:54:34,392 Voice Transmission End 2.70 seconds loss rate: 93.33% (3/45)
INFO 2018-11-23 23:56:06,731 Voice Transmission Start on TS 1 and TG 8802 (8802) from 3121792 (3121792)
INFO 2018-11-23 23:56:11,592 Voice Transmission End 4.86 seconds loss rate: 96.30% (3/81)
INFO 2018-11-23 23:57:41,114 Voice Transmission Start on TS 1 and TG 8802 (8802) from 3111697 (3111697)
INFO 2018-11-23 23:57:45,252 Voice Transmission End 4.14 seconds loss rate: 95.65% (3/69)

Here’s the output from HB_Bridge:

INFO 2018-11-23 23:54:31,692 (MASTER-1) Begin AMBE encode STREAM ID: 3929710726 SUB: 3121792 (3121792) REPEATER: 13100030 (13100030) TGID 8802 (8802), TS 1
INFO 2018-11-23 23:56:06,732 (MASTER-1) Begin AMBE encode STREAM ID: 725990770 SUB: 3121792 (3121792) REPEATER: 13100030 (13100030) TGID 8802 (8802), TS 1
INFO 2018-11-23 23:57:41,112 (MASTER-1) Begin AMBE encode STREAM ID: 754258576 SUB: 3111697 (3111697) REPEATER: 13100030 (13100030) TGID 8802 (8802), TS 1

Now that loss rate from IPSC_Bridge worried me when I first discovered it, but since I was actually passing audio both ways earlier today when it was happening, I figured it wasn’t worth worrying about, probably just mis-reporting.  Notice how it’s always 3 out of however many. Always.  But now I wonder if it’s indicative of a problem I should track down.

Any ideas what I should check next?

In terms of setting up confbridge, which is preferred to work with, the one in dmrlink or the one in hblink?  Ultimately, I want one of those to be the primary decision maker in the “center” of it all.  With the link to BM being the most number of talkgroups, I’m leaning towards the hblink one as the one to use.

Thanks,
Jim

On Nov 23, 2018, at 7:14 AM, Jim Gifford - KD4PPG <jim@...> wrote:

I've reached the point where I need someone with experience with these tools to point me in the right direction.  I think I am getting overwhelmed with too much "there's more than one way to do it" combined with not knowing the limitations of the various branches of dmrlink and hblink (IPSC_Bridge and HB_Bridge specifically).

I have the need to connect 2 repeaters up to 2 different networks simultaneously.  One repeater is Mototrbo/IPSC and the other is MMDVM/Pi-Star.  One of the networks is a cBridge, and the other is Brandmeister.

On the IPSC repeater, the requirement is to have TS1 TG8802 and TS2 TG3151 by default, with TG8802 sourced from the cBridge, and TG3151 sourced from either the cBridge or Brandmeister.  I can get it from either source, but TG8802 is only from the cBridge due to policy.  The part that makes it difficult for me to know how to implement it is that the repeater owner wants TS1 to share with "any possible" BM TG, with a PTT setup with 15 minute timeout to revert to TG8802.

On the MMDVM repeater, the requirement is to have TS1 TG8802 and TS2 TG3151 by default.  Again, TG8802 sourced from the cBridge, and TG3151 from either.  The repeater owner on this one is me, and I'd rather have my PTT groups on TS2, and I don't necessarily care if it is "any possible" BM TG or simply a predefined subset.

Eventually, we might add additional DMR repeaters into the mix, and have different requirements for them.

I've started with a pristine install of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, updated it, added Steve's DVSwitch-System-Builder script, and followed its directions.

Any suggestions for the best way to implement the system as described, or as closely as possible?

Thanks in advance,
Jim KD4PPG






Re: Installing DVSwitch

Steve N4IRS
 

The Draft DMRGateway Install notes is no longer valid. All of the programs have been replaced. Use https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eN50Csr29eAprBu7eKA0Bfa2XUcsXw5iktY1Ey-Qjkg/edit?usp=sharing

On 11/26/18 7:03 AM, Guillermo HK4KM via Groups.Io wrote:
Ok I can now see that maybe the problem with the Draft DMRGateway Install notes is that I did not use the image 

http://dvswitch.org/files/DIAL/RAT_RC1.tar.gz

because it no longer exists at that URL.  So I used a normal Raspbian image.  That maybe explains why the files to contiune installing are not there.

So I will have to look at the other document in more detail.

What I really want to do is transcode/link YSF<->D-Star.  I already have two reflectors running in a single Tinkerboard. And, after that is working I want to connect those to IRN.  I have a channel set up there.  Or, I can use my own TeamSpeak 3 server which is up and running.

Don't know if all this sounds crazy or if it can be done.  Just got pointed to DVSwitch by the IRN guys.

Appreciate any help with this idea and where I may be wrong or what I can and can't do.

73 de Guillermo, HK4KM




Re: Installing DVSwitch

Guillermo HK4KM <hk4km@...>
 

Ok I can now see that maybe the problem with the Draft DMRGateway Install notes is that I did not use the image 

http://dvswitch.org/files/DIAL/RAT_RC1.tar.gz

because it no longer exists at that URL.  So I used a normal Raspbian image.  That maybe explains why the files to contiune installing are not there.

So I will have to look at the other document in more detail.

What I really want to do is transcode/link YSF<->D-Star.  I already have two reflectors running in a single Tinkerboard. And, after that is working I want to connect those to IRN.  I have a channel set up there.  Or, I can use my own TeamSpeak 3 server which is up and running.

Don't know if all this sounds crazy or if it can be done.  Just got pointed to DVSwitch by the IRN guys.

Appreciate any help with this idea and where I may be wrong or what I can and can't do.

73 de Guillermo, HK4KM



Re: Installing DVSwitch

Steve N4IRS
 

DMRGateway no longer exists. The document is no longer valid. I will be removing the document as soon as I finish this message. Use this document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eN50Csr29eAprBu7eKA0Bfa2XUcsXw5iktY1Ey-Qjkg/edit?usp=sharing

Steve N4IRS

On 11/26/18 6:46 AM, Guillermo HK4KM via Groups.Io wrote:
Thanks for your reply, Mike.

I went to the Files section on the site and downloaded this:

https://dvswitch.groups.io/g/main/files/Draft%20DMRGateway%20Install%20notes.odt

As I stated in my original message, all goes well until I get to the point where it says:

   4: Copy the proper version of DMRG to the destination directory. Execute cp DMRGateway.armv7 /opt/DMRGateway/ DMRGateway


I don't have a DMRGateway.armv7 file to copy in that directory, nor in any other directory in /srv/DMRGateway




Re: Installing DVSwitch

Guillermo HK4KM <hk4km@...>
 

Thanks for your reply, Mike.

I went to the Files section on the site and downloaded this:

https://dvswitch.groups.io/g/main/files/Draft%20DMRGateway%20Install%20notes.odt

As I stated in my original message, all goes well until I get to the point where it says:

   4: Copy the proper version of DMRG to the destination directory. Execute cp DMRGateway.armv7 /opt/DMRGateway/ DMRGateway


I don't have a DMRGateway.armv7 file to copy in that directory, nor in any other directory in /srv/DMRGateway



Re: Installing DVSwitch

Guillermo HK4KM <hk4km@...>
 

Thanks, Frank.  Will see the video and the other one he has on setting up the Allstar node.

73 de HK4KM - Guillermo


Re: Installing DVSwitch

Frank Decuire
 

Guillermo 

If you are a visual learner check out this YouTube video it worked great for me. The narrator also refers to the document.

Frank k6fed 

On Sunday, November 25, 2018, 5:02 PM, Guillermo HK4KM via Groups.Io <hk4km@...> wrote:

Hello group.

I have been trying to install DVSwitch but following the document "Draft DMRGateway Install Notes", when I get to the Install and test DMRGateway part I can't go beyond point 3 as the file in point 4 does not exist.  Is there a revised document I can follow?

I also tried the 
DVSwitch-System-Builder and that also does not work.

Any complete, correct set of instructions I can find to get this set up?

Thanks in advance.


Re: Installing DVSwitch

Mike KB8JNM
 

Not sure exactly what you are looking at...

Try this.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eN50Csr29eAprBu7eKA0Bfa2XUcsXw5iktY1Ey-Qjkg/edit

...mike/kb8jnm

On 11/25/2018 8:02 PM, Guillermo HK4KM via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello group.

I have been trying to install DVSwitch but following the document "Draft DMRGateway Install Notes", when I get to the Install and test DMRGateway part I can't go beyond point 3 as the file in point 4 does not exist.  Is there a revised document I can follow?

I also tried the 
DVSwitch-System-Builder and that also does not work.

Any complete, correct set of instructions I can find to get this set up?

Thanks in advance.


Re: Installing DVSwitch

Steve N4IRS
 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eN50Csr29eAprBu7eKA0Bfa2XUcsXw5iktY1Ey-Qjkg/edit

What does not work in DVSwitch-System-Builder? What are you trying to do?

Steve N4IRS

On 11/25/18 8:02 PM, Guillermo HK4KM via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello group.

I have been trying to install DVSwitch but following the document "Draft DMRGateway Install Notes", when I get to the Install and test DMRGateway part I can't go beyond point 3 as the file in point 4 does not exist.  Is there a revised document I can follow?

I also tried the 
DVSwitch-System-Builder and that also does not work.

Any complete, correct set of instructions I can find to get this set up?

Thanks in advance.


Installing DVSwitch

Guillermo HK4KM <hk4km@...>
 

Hello group.

I have been trying to install DVSwitch but following the document "Draft DMRGateway Install Notes", when I get to the Install and test DMRGateway part I can't go beyond point 3 as the file in point 4 does not exist.  Is there a revised document I can follow?

I also tried the 
DVSwitch-System-Builder and that also does not work.

Any complete, correct set of instructions I can find to get this set up?

Thanks in advance.


Re: OT: Looking for an old part

Cort N0MJS <n0mjs@...>
 

Need it by Christmas, so not a huge rush. Thanks for looking. Will let you know if I turn one up sooner.

On Nov 25, 2018, at 6:07 PM, Chris WB4ULK via Groups.Io <chood73=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

If it can wait until this weekend, I may be able to help if you haven’t found it by then.

Have a bunch in storage, If I can lay hands on them.

Chris
WB4ULK

On Nov 25, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Cort N0MJS via Groups.Io <n0mjs=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

If anyone out there has a Motorola Motrac/Motran/Mocom control head & microphone, I’m looking for one. I don’t need cables or for it to even work. It’s going to be used as a prop.

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H: +1-785-813-1501
M: +1-785-865-7206









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H: +1-785-813-1501
M: +1-785-865-7206


Re: OT: Looking for an old part

Chris WB4ULK
 

If it can wait until this weekend, I may be able to help if you haven’t found it by then.

Have a bunch in storage, If I can lay hands on them.

Chris
WB4ULK

On Nov 25, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Cort N0MJS via Groups.Io <n0mjs=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

If anyone out there has a Motorola Motrac/Motran/Mocom control head & microphone, I’m looking for one. I don’t need cables or for it to even work. It’s going to be used as a prop.

--
Cort Buffington
H: +1-785-813-1501
M: +1-785-865-7206







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