Welcome to DVSwitch
DVSwitch is a set of tools and programs related to provisioning and operating Amateur Radio digital voice networks.
Purpose
The purpose of DVSwitch is as follows:
1) Allows “local” networking during an outage of the regional national/international network server.
2) Allows a local network operator to “blend” upstream feeds from different Networks (capital N on purpose). These Networks can’t get their act together and learn how to play nice with each other (everyone guilty as far as we are concerned). They may not like people doing this, but the solution is to grow up and work with each other, and not keep trying to force people to take sides.
3) Allows local segregation of localized traffic with more flexibility.
4) Allows experimentation with linking and how it’s done (part 97 specifies experimentation and advancement of the radio art are a core part of amateur radio).
1) Allows “local” networking during an outage of the regional national/international network server.
2) Allows a local network operator to “blend” upstream feeds from different Networks (capital N on purpose). These Networks can’t get their act together and learn how to play nice with each other (everyone guilty as far as we are concerned). They may not like people doing this, but the solution is to grow up and work with each other, and not keep trying to force people to take sides.
3) Allows local segregation of localized traffic with more flexibility.
4) Allows experimentation with linking and how it’s done (part 97 specifies experimentation and advancement of the radio art are a core part of amateur radio).
Mission Statement/Position
Our stated position is:
WHEREAS the Networks continue to be largely islands and are not working together to create a unified network of Networks.
WHEREAS no firm reason has been given by any of the Networks why a *competent* local network operator cannot make this work effectively.
(US ONLY)
WHEREAS 47 CFR 97 (Amateur Radio Service) specifies that a core component of amateur radio is experimentation and advancement of the radio art [97.1(b)].
BE IT RESOLVED the core group of US amateur radio operators and experimenters organized around the DVSwitch project, and in the spirit of USA 47 CFR 97 and its intentions, support the *responsible* and *thoughtful* use of digital voice networking tools to create localized networks that will interconnect to the national/international Networks, and will support users of its tools in order to do this in the most effective and sustainable way possible.
WHEREAS the Networks continue to be largely islands and are not working together to create a unified network of Networks.
WHEREAS no firm reason has been given by any of the Networks why a *competent* local network operator cannot make this work effectively.
(US ONLY)
WHEREAS 47 CFR 97 (Amateur Radio Service) specifies that a core component of amateur radio is experimentation and advancement of the radio art [97.1(b)].
BE IT RESOLVED the core group of US amateur radio operators and experimenters organized around the DVSwitch project, and in the spirit of USA 47 CFR 97 and its intentions, support the *responsible* and *thoughtful* use of digital voice networking tools to create localized networks that will interconnect to the national/international Networks, and will support users of its tools in order to do this in the most effective and sustainable way possible.
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Re: Update and upgrade errors
Then apt install mmdvm-bridge
Sent by smoke signal (AT&T)
From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> on behalf of Kevin N9OIG <n9oig@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 2:01:58 AM To: main@DVSwitch.groups.io <main@DVSwitch.groups.io> Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] Update and upgrade errors I think this was built before the Quantar Bridge was out. I just double checked there isn't anything referring to Quantar anything on it.
This is just P25Gateway to ABP25 to ABDMR to MB Due to Covid I don't have access to the site where its located or Id go pull it a start from scratch. Kevin
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Re: Update and upgrade errors
Kevin N9OIG
I think this was built before the Quantar Bridge was out. I just double checked there isn't anything referring to Quantar anything on it.
This is just P25Gateway to ABP25 to ABDMR to MB Due to Covid I don't have access to the site where its located or Id go pull it a start from scratch. Kevin
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Re: Another support option
Yeah, I managed to follow the bouncing
ball, all good. The bot let me in fine. :)
On 27/2/21 8:21 am, Steve N4IRS wrote:
You should send a private message to the bot with just your callsign. You will be able to rejoin in about 10 minutes.
-- 73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL http://vkradio.com
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Re: Another support option
Excellent idea Steve. Telegram is a
great medium for this sort of troubleshooting. It's much easier
for those experiencing issues as well.
On 27/2/21 1:40 am, Steve N4IRS wrote:
We have been aware that some of the support e-mails have caused so very large threads with short messages back and forth as I have worked to help a user through a problem. Some users who are subscribed to individual e-mails have been spamed by this and have unsubscribed. Digest subscription will solve this. I have not wanted to move this traffic to private e-mail since the purpose of groups.io is to provide a place where people can find similar issues and resolve them. Going to private e-mail removes the resolution from the forum.
-- 73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL http://vkradio.com
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Re: Another support option
Ian Tulley
Hi Jeff, I’m connected now but when I originally hit the INAD icon it took me to this page
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Then I had to hit the INAD icon again to take me to where I could select message. All done now though but thought I should post this on case others get caught. Ian (VK2HK) Typo's, autocorrect or spelling mistakes courtesy of both myself and my iPhone
On 27 Feb 2021, at 08:52, Jeff Lehman, N8ACL via groups.io <n8acl@...> wrote:
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Re: Another support option
Jeff Lehman, N8ACL
This is the iOS app…. Not sure what you are seeing? Jeff
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Re: Another support option
I have cleared your account, you can retry.
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On 2/26/21 4:41 PM, Ian Tulley wrote:
Thanks Jeff, yep tried that but there was no “message”selection. Not sure if it is my iPhone app. I will wait until I can try to join again and give it another go.
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Re: Another support option
Ian Tulley
Thanks Jeff, yep tried that but there was no “message”selection. Not sure if it is my iPhone app. I will wait until I can try to join again and give it another go.
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Ian (VK2HK) Typo's, autocorrect or spelling mistakes courtesy of both myself and my iPhone
On 27 Feb 2021, at 08:30, Jeff Lehman, N8ACL via groups.io <n8acl@...> wrote:
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Re: Another support option
Jeff Lehman, N8ACL
Click on the bots picture or name and it will take you to it’s profile then click message, click start and type in your callsign.
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Re: Another support option
Ian Tulley
It told me I was locked to read only, could not type anything after that message
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Ian (VK2HK) Typo's, autocorrect or spelling mistakes courtesy of both myself and my iPhone
On 27 Feb 2021, at 08:22, Steve N4IRS <szingman@...> wrote:
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Re: Another support option
You should send a private message to the bot with just your
callsign. You will be able to rejoin in about 10 minutes.
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On 2/26/21 4:14 PM, Ian Tulley wrote:
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Re: Another support option
Ian Tulley
Hi Steve, tried to join, already telegram user, I got the message to send a PM within 10 minutes but where do I send a PM. After the 10 minutes I was removed and my username already has my callsign. Now if I try to join again it tells me sorry this group is private. Ian (VK2HK) Typo's, autocorrect or spelling mistakes courtesy of both myself and my iPhone
On 27 Feb 2021, at 07:21, WD0FYF Gerald <wd0fyf@...> wrote:
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Re: Another support option
WD0FYF Gerald
I find the troubleshooting process and the tools used to delve into the workings of the machine very educational. I will miss them. Gerald WD0FYF On 2/26/2021 8:40 AM, Steve N4IRS
wrote:
We have been aware that some of the support e-mails have caused so very large threads with short messages back and forth as I have worked to help a user through a problem. Some users who are subscribed to individual e-mails have been spamed by this and have unsubscribed. Digest subscription will solve this. I have not wanted to move this traffic to private e-mail since the purpose of groups.io is to provide a place where people can find similar issues and resolve them. Going to private e-mail removes the resolution from the forum.
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Re: Update and upgrade errors
apt install dvswitch-quantar will install dvswitch-base,
mmdvm-bridge, quantar-bridge, p25gateway, p25parrot
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or, apt install mmdvm-bridge quantar-bridge There should be a /opt/Quantar_Bridge directory
On 2/26/21 10:59 AM, Kevin N9OIG wrote:
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo apt remove MMDVM_Bridge
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Re: Update and upgrade errors
Kevin N9OIG
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo apt remove MMDVM_Bridge
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package MMDVM_Bridge
pi@raspberrypi:~ $
There isnt a Quantar_Bridge directory.
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Re: Another support option
While I may be alone, I do not support using a 3rd party service for our forums.
I have since the beginning 'MUTE THIS TOPIC' when the back and forth short messages overload my email. But never unsubscribe. And I am subscribed to all forums.
On 2/26/2021 9:40 AM, Steve N4IRS
wrote:
We have been aware that some of the support e-mails have caused so very large threads with short messages back and forth as I have worked to help a user through a problem. Some users who are subscribed to individual e-mails have been spamed by this and have unsubscribed. Digest subscription will solve this. I have not wanted to move this traffic to private e-mail since the purpose of groups.io is to provide a place where people can find similar issues and resolve them. Going to private e-mail removes the resolution from the forum.
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Another support option
We have been aware that some of the support e-mails have caused so very large threads with short messages back and forth as I have worked to help a user through a problem. Some users who are subscribed to individual e-mails have been spamed by this and have unsubscribed. Digest subscription will solve this. I have not wanted to move this traffic to private e-mail since the purpose of groups.io is to provide a place where people can find similar issues and resolve them. Going to private e-mail removes the resolution from the forum.
So, we are going to try something different. We have a Telegram group setup Telegram to try to move some of the quick back and forth off groups.io. I will post the resolution on groups.io once we have a resolution. To keep from having the Telegram room spammed by bots and people, we have implemented a system where you must verify you are a ham to join the room. This is a bot created by Vladimir AC2F and I must say, it's pretty cool. The invite link is Join DVSwitch Telegram group You must be a telegram user to join. There are quite a few ham related rooms. Join us. Steve N4IRS
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Re: pyUC Client Installation issue
Ed Liddle
I installed it on Ubuntu and ran into the same problem. This should help with mint. https://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/bs4/doc/ If you’re using a recent version of Debian or Ubuntu Linux, you can install Beautiful Soup with the system package manager: $ apt-get install python-bs4 (for Python 2) $ apt-get install python3-bs4 (for Python 3) 73, Ed
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 18:09 Mike Zingman - N4IRR <mike.zingman@...> wrote: All python code is open source. The pyaudio module witten in C /C++ is on git. Sorry I do not have the link on hand. When pyaudio was written ALSA was the standard audio subsystem. But many distros have moved on.
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Re: pyUC Client Installation issue
All python code is open source. The pyaudio module witten in C /C++ is on git. Sorry I do not have the link on hand. When pyaudio was written ALSA was the standard audio subsystem. But many distros have moved on.
A quick Google search finds a pyaudio alternative as: https://python-sounddevice.readthedocs.io/en/0.4.1/ But I have not looked into it as a replacement. Mike
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Re: pyUC Client Installation issue
JerryL
Hi Ken,
Thanks for another reply. I've looked for a way to make ALSA my default rather than Pulse and not found it. Sometimes looking for Web help on Linux is painful. You get lots of different suggestions, some involving pages of code, conflicting suggestions, or lots of stuff that others say doesn't work, etc. I just don't know enough about Linux to figure out what I should be doing. However, I have read Steve's message about hUC running through HTML. That seems like it's going to be the path of the least resistance for now. Hurrah to Steve N4IRS and others that are putting all this wonderful software together. I also have been looking inside pyUC.py for an answer. There seems to be an answer somewhere in their code. I don't know if you've ventured inside that one or the pyUC.ini file. The comments following the code are very well documented and are clear enough to understand. What I'd really like to do is take a look inside the installed 'python-pyaudio' file, but I couldn't find where it is hidden. Oh well, I'm waiting for the hUC. Thanks for your help. Jerry, KB3OIL
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