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Re: BrandMeister to XLX

Ben Fogt
 

I agree, dealing with BM support is tough. It took about 2-3 months to get my intertie done. But the infrastructure is simple and im not really sure the need for additional software. More software = more management. My setup is simply:

BM <-> XLX <-> YSF2DMR <-> YSFReflector

This allows for pi-star users to use "DMR gateway" to connect directly (if BM keeps dropping the peer link like it does) and give easy access through BM and System Fusion.

I am just really curious what the added software adapters get ya that the simple connection method doesnt. Not arguing, just learning.


On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:33 PM Steve KC1AWV <smiller@...> wrote:
Not to disparage BM helpdesk, but requesting an interlink takes a long time, at least in my experience. I have an interlink request outstanding since the beginning of February, hence the reason I wrote up that document. It's easier, and faster. Also, some (if not a lot) of users wanting to do this may not have direct access to the XLX server they want to link. It could also be used for testing before requesting an interlink. Just a few thoughts, I'm sure there may be more reasons.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 5:20 PM Scott Weis (KB2EAR) via Groups.Io <kb2ear=kb2ear.net@groups.io> wrote:

I have a question…. Why would you use DVSwich at all for this when you can just do it natively?

 

https://wiki.brandmeister.network/index.php/XLX

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve KC1AWV
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 3:54 PM
To: main@dvswitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] BrandMeister to XLX

 

Again, my testing suggestions are in the document, just before the section for enabling and starting the services.

 

Since you're not providing much information as to what the expected result of your test is, or what your test criteria are, I cannot tell you which steps are needed to test your work.

 

The only testing you have suggested is for two dissimilar protocols to talk to each other, which I have given you advice on. You need to set up transcoding for a DMR radio to talk to a DStar radio. That is out of scope of my document, and I cannot provide testing steps for that specific situation.

 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:01 PM andrew delgado via Groups.Io <andrew_12ph=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 02:55 AM, Steve KC1AWV wrote:

 

You're on the right track, but only halfway there.

Thanks Steve!
one more question here. to the document that you've wrote. how can i fully test my work if that is working?



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Re: Wave PTT subscription and DVSwitch config's #best_practices #dmrlink

Steve N4IRS
 

Bret,
We need a little more information. What are you trying to accomplish?

73, Steve N4IRS

On 3/20/19 5:49 AM, Bret Muller wrote:
Currently using the wave PTT platform for a private system and was wondering what would and where would I configure a host system


Wave PTT subscription and DVSwitch config's #best_practices #dmrlink

Bret Muller
 

Currently using the wave PTT platform for a private system and was wondering what would and where would I configure a host system


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

Steve KC1AWV
 

Not to disparage BM helpdesk, but requesting an interlink takes a long time, at least in my experience. I have an interlink request outstanding since the beginning of February, hence the reason I wrote up that document. It's easier, and faster. Also, some (if not a lot) of users wanting to do this may not have direct access to the XLX server they want to link. It could also be used for testing before requesting an interlink. Just a few thoughts, I'm sure there may be more reasons.


On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 5:20 PM Scott Weis (KB2EAR) via Groups.Io <kb2ear=kb2ear.net@groups.io> wrote:

I have a question…. Why would you use DVSwich at all for this when you can just do it natively?

 

https://wiki.brandmeister.network/index.php/XLX

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve KC1AWV
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 3:54 PM
To: main@dvswitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] BrandMeister to XLX

 

Again, my testing suggestions are in the document, just before the section for enabling and starting the services.

 

Since you're not providing much information as to what the expected result of your test is, or what your test criteria are, I cannot tell you which steps are needed to test your work.

 

The only testing you have suggested is for two dissimilar protocols to talk to each other, which I have given you advice on. You need to set up transcoding for a DMR radio to talk to a DStar radio. That is out of scope of my document, and I cannot provide testing steps for that specific situation.

 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:01 PM andrew delgado via Groups.Io <andrew_12ph=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 02:55 AM, Steve KC1AWV wrote:

 

You're on the right track, but only halfway there.

Thanks Steve!
one more question here. to the document that you've wrote. how can i fully test my work if that is working?



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Steve Miller

KC1AWV



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Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

Scott Weis (KB2EAR)
 

I have a question…. Why would you use DVSwich at all for this when you can just do it natively?

 

https://wiki.brandmeister.network/index.php/XLX

 

From: main@DVSwitch.groups.io [mailto:main@DVSwitch.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve KC1AWV
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 3:54 PM
To: main@dvswitch.groups.io
Subject: Re: [DVSwitch] BrandMeister to XLX

 

Again, my testing suggestions are in the document, just before the section for enabling and starting the services.

 

Since you're not providing much information as to what the expected result of your test is, or what your test criteria are, I cannot tell you which steps are needed to test your work.

 

The only testing you have suggested is for two dissimilar protocols to talk to each other, which I have given you advice on. You need to set up transcoding for a DMR radio to talk to a DStar radio. That is out of scope of my document, and I cannot provide testing steps for that specific situation.

 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:01 PM andrew delgado via Groups.Io <andrew_12ph=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 02:55 AM, Steve KC1AWV wrote:

 

You're on the right track, but only halfway there.

Thanks Steve!
one more question here. to the document that you've wrote. how can i fully test my work if that is working?



--

Steve Miller

KC1AWV


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

Steve KC1AWV
 

Again, my testing suggestions are in the document, just before the section for enabling and starting the services.

Since you're not providing much information as to what the expected result of your test is, or what your test criteria are, I cannot tell you which steps are needed to test your work.

The only testing you have suggested is for two dissimilar protocols to talk to each other, which I have given you advice on. You need to set up transcoding for a DMR radio to talk to a DStar radio. That is out of scope of my document, and I cannot provide testing steps for that specific situation.


On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:01 PM andrew delgado via Groups.Io <andrew_12ph=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 02:55 AM, Steve KC1AWV wrote:
 
You're on the right track, but only halfway there.
Thanks Steve!
one more question here. to the document that you've wrote. how can i fully test my work if that is working?



--
Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

andrew delgado
 

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 02:55 AM, Steve KC1AWV wrote:
 
You're on the right track, but only halfway there.
Thanks Steve!
one more question here. to the document that you've wrote. how can i fully test my work if that is working?


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

Steve KC1AWV
 

Ok, let me rephrase this a different way.

If you want to bridge an XLX module to a BM TG, then follow my document.

If you want to have a DStar radio on that XLX module talk to a DMR radio on a BM Talkgroup, you must set up transcoding somewhere.

You're on the right track, but only halfway there.


On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:51 PM andrew delgado via Groups.Io <andrew_12ph=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 02:46 AM, Steve KC1AWV wrote:
DMR radio <> hostpot <> BM <--> MMDVM_Bridge_BM 1 <--> MMDVM_Bridge_XLX 2 <--> DMRGateway <--> XLX <> hotspot <> Dstar radio
yes this is my current setup and my goal is to bridge DMR radio programed to a certain BM TG and Dstar radio connected to hotspot and that hotspot is connected to XLX reflector then my HT is calling CQ to that reflector.

DMR radio <> hostpot <> BM <--> MMDVM_Bridge_BM 1 <--> MMDVM_Bridge_XLX 2 <--> DMRGateway <--> XLX <> hotspot <> Dstar radio

so im still on the right path? or not?

Thanks for the quick response Steve.



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Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

andrew delgado
 

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 02:46 AM, Steve KC1AWV wrote:
DMR radio <> hostpot <> BM <--> MMDVM_Bridge_BM 1 <--> MMDVM_Bridge_XLX 2 <--> DMRGateway <--> XLX <> hotspot <> Dstar radio
yes this is my current setup and my goal is to bridge DMR radio programed to a certain BM TG and Dstar radio connected to hotspot and that hotspot is connected to XLX reflector then my HT is calling CQ to that reflector.

DMR radio <> hostpot <> BM <--> MMDVM_Bridge_BM 1 <--> MMDVM_Bridge_XLX 2 <--> DMRGateway <--> XLX <> hotspot <> Dstar radio

so im still on the right path? or not?

Thanks for the quick response Steve.


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

Steve KC1AWV
 

Yes, the document is to bridge a BM talkgroup to an XLX module. That part you have correct. However, you mentioned that you are using a DStar radio on the XLX side.

DMR radio <> hostpot <> BM <--> MMDVM_Bridge_BM 1 <--> MMDVM_Bridge_XLX 2 <--> DMRGateway <--> XLX <> hotspot <> Dstar radio

XLX is a multiprotocol DStar reflector, with capabilities to transcode AMBE using an external program, ambed. The ambed program requires a AMBE dongle, such as the ubiquitous DV3000 stick, a popular one is made by NW Digital.

If you are using a DStar radio on XLX, then you need to have some sort of transcoding on the XLX server, or else you will never hear the BM talkgroup, and vice versa. Setting up transcoding is outside the scope of my document, and can be found elsewhere on the Internet. There's plenty of other people that have instructions on how to set up transcoding.



On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM andrew delgado via Groups.Io <andrew_12ph=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks for that information Steve.

sorry my understanding is this document "BM to XLX via MMDVM_Bridge (DVSwitch distribution) on Debian 9"
is to bridge XLX and BM?

so im not in the right path right? my goal is to bridge a certain TG from BM and XLX reflector.



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Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

andrew delgado
 

Thanks for that information Steve.

sorry my understanding is this document "BM to XLX via MMDVM_Bridge (DVSwitch distribution) on Debian 9"
is to bridge XLX and BM?

so im not in the right path right? my goal is to bridge a certain TG from BM and XLX reflector.


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

Steve KC1AWV
 

Andrew,

If you are trying to go from a BM TG (DMR) to an XLX DStar module, you will have to have some sort of transcoding going on. This is out of scope for the document I wrote, the intention is DMR <-> DMR.

DStar is an IMBE protocol, whereas DMR is AMBE. The two cannot talk directly to each other. You will need to have either ambed on the XLX server with a DV3000 dongle, AMBEServer somewhere with a DV3000 dongle, or Analog_Bridge with a DV3000 dongle. The md380_emu may be used, but is not suggested as the voice quality for IMBE is poor.


On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:08 PM andrew delgado via Groups.Io <andrew_12ph=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
HI Steve,

on the server i did follow your documentation configuration is also same in terms of ports.
now i cant simulate please guide me here.

DMR radio <> hostpot <> BM <--> MMDVM_Bridge_BM 1 <--> MMDVM_Bridge_XLX 2 <--> DMRGateway <--> XLX <> hotspot <> Dstar radio

Question?
1. DMR radio settings? what TG should i put to my radio?
2. on the BM side do i need to put a static TG?

currently my dstar radio is set to xlx reflector that i want to bridge.
i was able to talk to dstar users using my hotspot and my ht on that xlx reflector.



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Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

andrew delgado
 

HI Steve,

on the server i did follow your documentation configuration is also same in terms of ports.
now i cant simulate please guide me here.

DMR radio <> hostpot <> BM <--> MMDVM_Bridge_BM 1 <--> MMDVM_Bridge_XLX 2 <--> DMRGateway <--> XLX <> hotspot <> Dstar radio

Question?
1. DMR radio settings? what TG should i put to my radio?
2. on the BM side do i need to put a static TG?

currently my dstar radio is set to xlx reflector that i want to bridge.
i was able to talk to dstar users using my hotspot and my ht on that xlx reflector.


Re: HBLINK HBMONITOR

Heiko DL1BZ
 

Cort wrote in big letter at github for hbmonitor "COMPLETELY UNSUPPORTED SOFTWARE - DO NOT ASK FOR SUPPORT OR FEATURES" :) Respect that.

But I think I know what's your problem. The database for users und subscribers was changed from .csv to .json . In this case you need update the dmr_utils AND hblink and hbmonitor, because both parts are using the dmr_utils.
First load from github the actual versions of hblink and hbmonitor and save your config-files from the old version. Compare then with the newer examples of both version what is changed.
Go to hbmonitor-directory and do:
$ pip install -r requirements.txt --upgrade
This will be update the dmr_utils and maybe other things for requirement.

I have a running hbmonitor with hblink3 (if you use hblink3 you need to update the dmr_utils3 because they are for python3 - hbmonitor is python2) and all worked like a charm. With hblink3 you need in directory of hblink3:
$ pip3 install -r requirements.txt --upgrade If there's an error with the first line "python>=3.5.0" in requirements.txt comment out this line (I had such error, but I had the python3 >= 3.5 installed correctly).

73 Heiko, DL1BZ


Re: Linking P25 to P25 using two mmdvm's

Mike AE4ML
 

Tony,
I have attached my layout diagram and lab setup.

Mike AE4ML


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

Steve KC1AWV
 

Andrew,

If you followed the directions that I wrote, then before starting and enabling the services there's a step that instructs you to open three new shells to the server running the services. Run each of the MMDVM_Bridge instances and DMRGateway instance in each shell in the foreground. Connect your repeater/hotspot to one end of the link (doesn't matter which end) and key up your radio, check for activity in each of the three shells. This is easier with two repeaters/hotspots and two radios of course, so if you have a buddy that can sit on the other end of the bridge to listen and call back to you, that would be better.

You've gotten the 'hard part' done by getting the software configured. Testing is the easy part, since all you have to do is talk on one end and listen on the other. If it doesn't work, then go back and check your work.


On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:34 AM andrew delgado via Groups.Io <andrew_12ph=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi all,

i was able setup BM <--> MMDVM_Bridge_BM 1 <--> MMDVM_Bridge_XLX 2 <--> DMRGateway <--> XLX

each Bridge is connected now to each network BM and  XLX , now my question is how can i test if my work is working?

Thanks and Regards,
Andrew



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Steve Miller
KC1AWV


Re: BrandMeister to XLX

andrew delgado
 

Hi all,

i was able setup BM <--> MMDVM_Bridge_BM 1 <--> MMDVM_Bridge_XLX 2 <--> DMRGateway <--> XLX

each Bridge is connected now to each network BM and  XLX , now my question is how can i test if my work is working?

Thanks and Regards,
Andrew


Re: Linking P25 to P25 using two mmdvm's

Tony Steele
 
Edited

Thank you both for the replies, Mike, could you elaborate on the process I need to follow to do do what you suggest?
I am reaonably ok with Linux, if you could explain the setting up of the P25 reflector and the talkgroup / host file I would be most grateful.

Presumably i'd need an mmdvm board and pi  inside the building and another set outside the building, what would I install on the pi's to set up the reflector and link them HBlink?
Would I also need another Pi (or server) to do the linking?

Regards
Tony.


Re: HBLINK HBMONITOR

fred sant
 

any manual on how to do this the right way with no more confusion.


On Monday, March 18, 2019, 07:22:08 PM EDT, fred sant via Groups.Io <yaesumontana@...> wrote:


how can this be fix


Re: HBLINK HBMONITOR

fred sant
 

how can this be fix

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